360+ wheel lb-ft 320+ whp *STOCK* Turbo

**Siegel Racing** · 09-13-2005, 01:34 PM

Oh yeah. The beauty of a HUGE TMIC. TXS 4.5" TMIC took our previous 347 wlb-ft and 314 whp to:

Pics to come

A single best pass of 360.0 wlb-ft and 324.2 whp with individual bests of 365.5 lb-ft and 328.1 whp.

SS

pharo · 09-13-2005, 02:39 PM

that is awesome! what other mods??? also, what year is the car? these results are so impressive.

***gixxer6*** · 09-13-2005, 02:40 PM

wow nice tune, could you tell us what the other mods were besides the TMIC?

JJ18Sniper · 09-13-2005, 02:50 PM

impressive numbers on the stocker.... I always thought turboxs listed there TMIC for the WRX only.

bluestreak · 09-13-2005, 02:51 PM

Alrighty then Scott....when did you say you were planning to make a trip to the Salt Lake City area? I know you've been dying to watch the Mormon Tabernacle Choir in person! ;-)

chrisfx811 · 09-13-2005, 02:57 PM

baseline #'s?
mods?

**Siegel Racing** · 09-13-2005, 03:12 PM

This was an EARLY '04. It was our "Performance STi" here until a customer insisted on buying it. I actually have dyno numbers and plots from stock to today.

Bone stock:
it dynoed 245 whp and 253 w-lb-ft

*DOUBLE CATTED* Random Tech TBE:
it made 265 whp and 283 wlb-ft

Injen CAI, Walboro 255 and Ecutek:
it made 304 whp and 328 wlb-ft

EBCS and extensive tweaking (and cooling the TMIC):
it made my previous best of 347 wlb-ft (amazing for an '04) and 314 whp

We added the TXS TMIC:
and got bests at 365.5 wlb-ft and 328 whp
with a "prettiest" run for 360.0 and 324.4
(it's hard to make them pretty on the dynapack)
that was at 18.8 psi peak, tapering to 16.1 psi at redline
with the afr's FLAT at 10.9 (it worked too well, and I ran out of time to play

)

SS

***VSGTS14*** · 09-13-2005, 03:12 PM

ok yea you need to list mods if that's on a stock turbo...that is pretty damn sweet

esemes · 09-13-2005, 04:06 PM

searching for a tmic..........

TTTT · 09-13-2005, 05:01 PM

Would there have been any change in power if you used an fmic instead?

***VSGTS14*** · 09-13-2005, 05:20 PM

and with that, a fmic is better with a larger turbo...
and heatsoak is something you wouldn't want.

jgheels2003 · 09-13-2005, 05:23 PM

TMIC: inconsistent power

FMIC: Consistent power

Power upgrades from an aftermarket TMIC are just fools gold. I went that route, gained a few ponies, but heatsoaked worse. The worst thing I ever did to my car. It still sits on top of everything and takes moderate amounts of speed before the air even gets under the scoop. FMIC..the air is hitting it the second you are moving. The stock TMIC is just too darn good for what its doing to change IMHO. Just an opinion though if you aren't getting a FMIC.

C43 · 09-13-2005, 05:23 PM

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TTTT · 09-13-2005, 05:26 PM

So, a FMIC on a stock turbo would have +'s and -'s obviously. Is it recommended? or does it not really matter either way?

jgheels2003 · 09-13-2005, 05:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nhluhr

Also, thickness of an IC core is far less important than exposed frontal area. The transfer of heat from the charged air to the aluminum to the ambient air is fastest where there is the largest gradient. For this reason, the first inch of thickness is where most of the charge air cooling is getting done. The remaining inches are just there for bling and extra flow capacity - They help very little in actually cooling the charge air. If somebody would design a FMIC that didn't have a retardedly thick core (yes, I'm talking about APS here), and that placed the endtanks on the top and bottom instead of the sides, I'd buy it.

Thats a good point, and nice diagram, thats a great way to show it.

09-13-2005, 01:34 PM	#1
Siegel Racing Authorized Vendor Car: Your STi ;) Fav Mod: Everything Location: Atlanta Posts: 1,241 Join Date: Mar 2005 Trader Rating: (2)	*360+ wheel lb-ft 320+ whp STOCK* Turbo** Oh yeah. The beauty of a HUGE TMIC. TXS 4.5" TMIC took our previous 347 wlb-ft and 314 whp to: Pics to come A single best pass of 360.0 wlb-ft and 324.2 whp with individual bests of 365.5 lb-ft and 328.1 whp. SS This ad is not endorsed by this member. Please register or login to hide this ad.

09-13-2005, 03:12 PM	#7
Siegel Racing Authorized Vendor Car: Your STi ;) Fav Mod: Everything Location: Atlanta Posts: 1,241 Join Date: Mar 2005 Trader Rating: (2)	This was an EARLY '04. It was our "Performance STi" here until a customer insisted on buying it. I actually have dyno numbers and plots from stock to today. Bone stock: it dynoed 245 whp and 253 w-lb-ft DOUBLE CATTED Random Tech TBE: it made 265 whp and 283 wlb-ft Injen CAI, Walboro 255 and Ecutek: it made 304 whp and 328 wlb-ft EBCS and extensive tweaking (and cooling the TMIC): it made my previous best of 347 wlb-ft (amazing for an '04) and 314 whp We added the TXS TMIC: and got bests at 365.5 wlb-ft and 328 whp with a "prettiest" run for 360.0 and 324.4 (it's hard to make them pretty on the dynapack) that was at 18.8 psi peak, tapering to 16.1 psi at redline with the afr's FLAT at 10.9 (it worked too well, and I ran out of time to play ) SS Last edited by Siegel Racing : 09-13-2005 at 03:15 PM.

09-13-2005, 05:23 PM	#12
jgheels2003 Spec C Club Car: 2003 Z06 Location: Greensboro, NC Posts: 1,214 Join Date: Oct 2004 Trader Rating: (3)	TMIC: inconsistent power FMIC: Consistent power Power upgrades from an aftermarket TMIC are just fools gold. I went that route, gained a few ponies, but heatsoaked worse. The worst thing I ever did to my car. It still sits on top of everything and takes moderate amounts of speed before the air even gets under the scoop. FMIC..the air is hitting it the second you are moving. The stock TMIC is just too darn good for what its doing to change IMHO. Just an opinion though if you aren't getting a FMIC. Last edited by jgheels2003 : 09-13-2005 at 05:28 PM.

09-13-2005, 02:39 PM	#2
pharo The Next Petter Solberg Car: OBP STi Fav Mod: really quick left foot & anything made my TIC Location: thousand oaks Posts: 850 Join Date: Apr 2005 Trader Rating: (0)	that is awesome! what other mods??? also, what year is the car? these results are so impressive.

09-13-2005, 02:40 PM	#3
*gixxer6* sponge worthy Location: Mountains of NC Posts: 1,580 Join Date: Oct 2004 Trader Rating: (0)	wow nice tune, could you tell us what the other mods were besides the TMIC?

09-13-2005, 02:50 PM	#4
JJ18Sniper Silver Member Car: 05 Subaru WRX STi Fav Mod: DB 20G, Diamond Black BBS RE's, S2K retrofit Location: NY Posts: 4,555 Join Date: Jul 2004 Trader Rating: (6)	impressive numbers on the stocker.... I always thought turboxs listed there TMIC for the WRX only.

09-13-2005, 02:51 PM	#5
bluestreak Professional STI Racer Car: 04 STi WRB Fav Mod: Lasik Location: Salt Lake City, UT Posts: 676 Join Date: Jul 2004 Trader Rating: (5)	Alrighty then Scott....when did you say you were planning to make a trip to the Salt Lake City area? I know you've been dying to watch the Mormon Tabernacle Choir in person! ;-)

09-13-2005, 02:57 PM	#6
chrisfx811 The Next Petter Solberg Location: louisville, ky Posts: 938 Join Date: Sep 2003 Trader Rating: (0)	baseline #'s? mods?

09-13-2005, 03:12 PM	#8
*VSGTS14* Muller Chevrolet Car: 08 Chevy 2500HD Fav Mod: a new 08 STi Location: Milford, NJ Posts: 9,851 Join Date: Oct 2004 Trader Rating: (11)	ok yea you need to list mods if that's on a stock turbo...that is pretty damn sweet

09-13-2005, 04:06 PM	#9
esemes S204 Racer Car: 996TT Location: clearh²o, FL Posts: 4,756 Join Date: Jul 2004 Trader Rating: (12)	searching for a tmic..........

09-13-2005, 05:01 PM	#10
TTTT STI Driver Car: 04 Blue STI Fav Mod: STI Seatbelt Pads :-) Location: Poughkeepsie, NY Posts: 225 Join Date: Apr 2005 Trader Rating: (1)	Would there have been any change in power if you used an fmic instead?

09-13-2005, 05:20 PM	#11
*VSGTS14* Muller Chevrolet Car: 08 Chevy 2500HD Fav Mod: a new 08 STi Location: Milford, NJ Posts: 9,851 Join Date: Oct 2004 Trader Rating: (11)	and with that, a fmic is better with a larger turbo... and heatsoak is something you wouldn't want.

09-13-2005, 05:23 PM	#13
C43 Professional STI Racer Car: 04 Subaru WRX STi Fav Mod: leather Location: Newtown to Philly every day Posts: 603 Join Date: Jun 2005 Trader Rating: (0)	Subscribed

09-13-2005, 05:26 PM	#14
TTTT STI Driver Car: 04 Blue STI Fav Mod: STI Seatbelt Pads :-) Location: Poughkeepsie, NY Posts: 225 Join Date: Apr 2005 Trader Rating: (1)	So, a FMIC on a stock turbo would have +'s and -'s obviously. Is it recommended? or does it not really matter either way?