07 Ringland issue questions????

***Black_Sun*** · 07-05-2008, 07:30 PM

The more and more I read, the more I am concerned..... I have 16000 miles on my 07 and I'm currently running a Stage 3 set up with a PE 1820F and ECUtek software tuned by DynoComp... My question is what kind of symptoms should I be looking for if I should have this nasty little problem??? Oil usage, knocking, total engine failure, or just a simple check engine light? At this point I'm looking into chaning out my stock pistons for CP forged.... Thanks in advance for any help!

***solovus*** · 07-05-2008, 07:48 PM

Oil usage at first...this may lead to a misfire code or maybe some 02 sensor code....if you have the resources to go CP forged just do it and save yourself the worry.

BBBsti LTD · 07-05-2008, 07:49 PM

Dont fix what is not broken!!

Look for oil during start up, loss in power, rough idle, CEL, oil consumption and other weird issues.

ryanwrxduksa · 07-05-2008, 07:52 PM

If you are tuned it's not a big deal. You won't cause any issues. The problem was the fact that there was a bad tune. If you are tuned it won't happen.

***Black_Sun*** · 07-05-2008, 08:12 PM

Thanks guys......

Feeling a little better here...... The car is running great! NO oil burn at all, idle is perfect, no knocking so far.... My only concern is the fact that she seems a little slow... I'm thinking the AZ heat and a TMIC.......

WXRTSI · 07-05-2008, 09:08 PM

We've been over this before...several people that had been protuned still had this ringland issue with the car. A software tune will not prevent mechanical problems like an incorrect gap from the factory. Best of wishes and good luck!

***Black_Sun*** · 07-05-2008, 11:03 PM

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Originally Posted by WXRTSI

We've been over this before...several people that had been protuned still had this ringland issue with the car. A software tune will not prevent mechanical problems like an incorrect gap from the factory. Best of wishes and good luck!

K... This answers nothing.... My question was "what should I look out for"... I'm not trying to get into the whole weak 07 motor debate..... I just want to know what might happen if I run into this problem......

n2oiroc · 07-05-2008, 11:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Black_Sun

K... This answers nothing.... My question was "what should I look out for"... I'm not trying to get into the whole weak 07 motor debate..... I just want to know what might happen if I run into this problem......

i have been thru it. i first noticed a puff of smoke coming out of the exhaust during full boost upshifts. i logged it and noticed a misfire on cylinder #4. hooked up a compression tester and it was at 50 psi. didnt really consume oil or feel slow till it was really bad. you will also have weak vacuum at idle and it wont produce full boost. even at the end, i never got a cel. the easiest way to check is to log cylinder roughness. or do a compression check.

***Black_Sun*** · 07-05-2008, 11:27 PM

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Originally Posted by n2oiroc

i have been thru it. i first noticed a puff of smoke coming out of the exhaust during full boost upshifts. i logged it and noticed a misfire on cylinder #4. hooked up a compression tester and it was at 50 psi. didnt really consume oil or feel slow till it was really bad. you will also have weak vacuum at idle and it wont produce full boost. even at the end, i never got a cel. the easiest way to check is to log cylinder roughness. or do a compression check.

Thanks man.... This is the kind of info I need.......

n2oiroc · 07-05-2008, 11:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Black_Sun

Thanks man.... This is the kind of info I need.......

the best thing you can do is log once in a while to make sure its not pulling timing. and make sure your tuner disabled the 2 extra d/a maps! nobody knows what triggers them and they will randomly add a buttload of extra timing and you will never know it! mine was fine on the dyno, but once it hit the street it was all over in less than 2,000 miles!

crand002 · 07-06-2008, 09:52 AM

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Originally Posted by n2oiroc

i have been thru it. i first noticed a puff of smoke coming out of the exhaust during full boost upshifts. i logged it and noticed a misfire on cylinder #4. hooked up a compression tester and it was at 50 psi. didnt really consume oil or feel slow till it was really bad. you will also have weak vacuum at idle and it wont produce full boost. even at the end, i never got a cel. the easiest way to check is to log cylinder roughness. or do a compression check.

So more vacuum at idle the better???

n2oiroc · 07-06-2008, 10:01 AM

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Originally Posted by crand002

So more vacuum at idle the better???

yep! a healthy engine will make more vacuum than a hurt one!

Kickstand · 07-06-2008, 05:58 PM

sorry to go offtopic, but how much vacuum does everyone pull. I usually sit at just over 20in/hg

***Black_Sun*** · 07-06-2008, 07:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Kickstand

sorry to go offtopic, but how much vacuum does everyone pull. I usually sit at just over 20in/hg

Me too... Right at 20.....

Kickstand · 07-07-2008, 08:32 AM

we seem to have a lot of the same mods, minus the turbo for me, i never considered that turbo, how do you like it, spool, topend, etc.

07-05-2008, 07:30 PM	#1
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07-05-2008, 07:48 PM	#2
*solovus* Lurker Car: STIzzle Fav Mod: Tint Location: Toledo, OH Posts: 1,754 Join Date: Mar 2008 Trader Rating: (0)	Re: 07 Ringland issue questions???? Oil usage at first...this may lead to a misfire code or maybe some 02 sensor code....if you have the resources to go CP forged just do it and save yourself the worry.

07-05-2008, 07:49 PM	#3
BBBsti LTD Professional STI Driver Car: 2007 STi LTD Fav Mod: Stg. 2 with Knocklite Location: Boricua en So Cal Posts: 440 Join Date: Apr 2006 Trader Rating: (0)	Re: 07 Ringland issue questions???? Dont fix what is not broken!! Look for oil during start up, loss in power, rough idle, CEL, oil consumption and other weird issues.

07-05-2008, 08:12 PM	#5
*Black_Sun* Closer to Madness..... Car: 07 WRX STI (OBP) Fav Mod: Power Enterprise 1820F Location: Gilbert Arizona Posts: 1,061 Join Date: Jun 2005 Trader Rating: (7)	Re: 07 Ringland issue questions???? Thanks guys...... Feeling a little better here...... The car is running great! NO oil burn at all, idle is perfect, no knocking so far.... My only concern is the fact that she seems a little slow... I'm thinking the AZ heat and a TMIC.......

07-05-2008, 09:08 PM	#6
WXRTSI Grassroots STI Racer Car: Blue, 06 STI Fav Mod: Accessport Location: NC Posts: 587 Join Date: Aug 2006 Trader Rating: (4)	Re: 07 Ringland issue questions???? We've been over this before...several people that had been protuned still had this ringland issue with the car. A software tune will not prevent mechanical problems like an incorrect gap from the factory. Best of wishes and good luck!

07-05-2008, 07:52 PM	#4
ryanwrxduksa Junior STI Driver Car: Pearl White 07 STi Posts: 135 Join Date: Aug 2007 Trader Rating: (0)	Re: 07 Ringland issue questions???? If you are tuned it's not a big deal. You won't cause any issues. The problem was the fact that there was a bad tune. If you are tuned it won't happen.

07-06-2008, 05:58 PM	#13
Kickstand Professional STI Racer Car: '07 SWP STi Fav Mod: NEW BRAKES!!! Location: Jacksonville, FL Posts: 816 Join Date: Feb 2007 Trader Rating: (3)	Re: 07 Ringland issue questions???? sorry to go offtopic, but how much vacuum does everyone pull. I usually sit at just over 20in/hg

07-07-2008, 08:32 AM	#15
Kickstand Professional STI Racer Car: '07 SWP STi Fav Mod: NEW BRAKES!!! Location: Jacksonville, FL Posts: 816 Join Date: Feb 2007 Trader Rating: (3)	Re: 07 Ringland issue questions???? we seem to have a lot of the same mods, minus the turbo for me, i never considered that turbo, how do you like it, spool, topend, etc. This ad is not endorsed by this member. Please register or login to hide this ad.