new internals....

subiecop · 06-23-2008, 07:59 PM

I'm looking to upgrade the internals of my 07 STI with some forged goodness. I know Crawford and Cosworth offer high end sweet products but is it really necessary to spend that much money? Are Wiseco, Eagle, CP good products?

Is it possible to get all the internals for around $1500 and still have a rock solid beast of an engine?

What are some brand to stay away from and what are some good alternatives?

sleepsindirt · 06-23-2008, 08:05 PM

i would sleep much better at nite knowing i had cosworth internals

**Cr8zyJAP07** · 06-23-2008, 08:10 PM

why?

with the stock turbo? i think it is worth spending that much money because those are great companies and i would want nothing but the best for my car. but have you looked into BC?

subiecop · 06-23-2008, 08:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Cr8zyJAP07

why?

with the stock turbo? i think it is worth spending that much money because those are great companies and i would want nothing but the best for my car. but have you looked into BC?

I dont have a stock turbo...FP Green

**Cr8zyJAP07** · 06-23-2008, 08:15 PM

ohhh ok i see. i like your icon alcard(s?) from hellsing.

subiecop · 06-23-2008, 08:15 PM

Its easy to say "spend the extra money" when its not your money to play with....Cosworth/Crawford are very well known and I would be fine spending the money if someone could explain why they are better...not just "because"

**FlyingPerformance** · 06-23-2008, 08:15 PM

CP forged with the top and side coatings.

subiecop · 06-23-2008, 08:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Cr8zyJAP07

ohhh ok i see. i like your icon alcard(s?) from hellsing.

thanks....

curse this mod stuff

Icculus · 06-23-2008, 08:27 PM

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Originally Posted by subiecop

I'm looking to upgrade the internals of my 07 STI with some forged goodness. I know Crawford and Cosworth offer high end sweet products but is it really necessary to spend that much money? Are Wiseco, Eagle, CP good products?

Is it possible to get all the internals for around $1500 and still have a rock solid beast of an engine?

What are some brand to stay away from and what are some good alternatives?

I've really been wondering about this as well. Between the oil pickup tube and the pistons its a miracle I can sleep at night

Anyway would definitely like to hear some experts thoughts. Also is it really worth just getting the pistons? If you're already having to pay to get the motor torn apart should you just bite the bullet and do all the whole bottem end.

Also I may be way out in left field but I thought CP pistons were Crawford???

**FlyingPerformance** · 06-23-2008, 08:40 PM

CP and Crawford are different companies. The stock crank and rods are already forged, the pistons are the weak point. Stock rods are good to 450-500 whp and the only advantage under that is to get a lighter weight rod. I have a few customers running close to 500 whp on stock rods with no issues.

subiecop · 06-23-2008, 08:44 PM

could I use my stock block? currently I have 21k on it but I would have the $$ until January.

Icculus · 06-23-2008, 08:45 PM

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Originally Posted by FlyingPerformance

CP and Crawford are different companies. The stock crank and rods are already forged, the pistons are the weak point. Stock rods are good to 450-500 whp and the only advantage under that is to get a lighter weight rod. I have a few customers running close to 500 whp on stock rods with no issues.

Thanks for clearing that up about the different companies and for some quality info

**FlyingPerformance** · 06-23-2008, 08:49 PM

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Originally Posted by subiecop

could I use my stock block? currently I have 21k on it but I would have the $$ until January.

You can use your stock block, but just prepare to be down for a few weeks or months. Even if you have a new block, you will be down for twice as long as you think, it always happens

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subiecop · 06-23-2008, 08:51 PM

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Originally Posted by FlyingPerformance

You can use your stock block, but just prepare to be down for a few weeks or months. Even if you have a new block, you will be down for twice as long as you think, it always happens

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sigh, yeah I figured. I'm hope to get a winter "beater" this summer so it wont be so bad

Icculus · 06-23-2008, 09:01 PM

FlyingPerformance, do you you have any thoughts or personal experience on the question of whether the higher dollar parts are worth it? (Say CP vs Crawford now that I know they aren't the same

)

Edit: I'm a retard, just saw where you recommended the coated CP's above
Wow and that's crazy. I work with a Robert Jacobs--wierd. Thanks Robert

06-23-2008, 07:59 PM	#1
subiecop Silver Member Car: 07 Subaru STI Location: Michigan Posts: 166 Join Date: Apr 2007 Trader Rating: (5)	new internals.... I'm looking to upgrade the internals of my 07 STI with some forged goodness. I know Crawford and Cosworth offer high end sweet products but is it really necessary to spend that much money? Are Wiseco, Eagle, CP good products? Is it possible to get all the internals for around $1500 and still have a rock solid beast of an engine? What are some brand to stay away from and what are some good alternatives? This ad is not endorsed by this member. Please register or login to hide this ad.

06-23-2008, 08:05 PM	#2
sleepsindirt Professional STI Driver Car: 08white sti gold bbs Fav Mod: emblem delete Posts: 410 Join Date: May 2008 Trader Rating: (0)	Re: new internals.... i would sleep much better at nite knowing i had cosworth internals

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Cr8zyJAP07 Gold Member Car: 07 STI OBP Fav Mod: 57maximum t/a, Nur spec-R, invidia v2.... Location: Bushkill, PA Posts: 1,025 Join Date: Feb 2008 Trader Rating: (3)	Re: new internals.... why? with the stock turbo? i think it is worth spending that much money because those are great companies and i would want nothing but the best for my car. but have you looked into BC?

06-23-2008, 08:15 PM	#5
Cr8zyJAP07 Gold Member Car: 07 STI OBP Fav Mod: 57maximum t/a, Nur spec-R, invidia v2.... Location: Bushkill, PA Posts: 1,025 Join Date: Feb 2008 Trader Rating: (3)	Re: new internals.... ohhh ok i see. i like your icon alcard(s?) from hellsing.

06-23-2008, 08:15 PM	#6
subiecop Silver Member Car: 07 Subaru STI Location: Michigan Posts: 166 Join Date: Apr 2007 Trader Rating: (5)	Re: new internals.... Its easy to say "spend the extra money" when its not your money to play with....Cosworth/Crawford are very well known and I would be fine spending the money if someone could explain why they are better...not just "because"

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06-23-2008, 08:40 PM	#10
FlyingPerformance Authorized Vendor Car: 2008 STI Fav Mod: Coming Soon Location: Austin, TX Posts: 561 Join Date: May 2008 Trader Rating: (10)	Re: new internals.... CP and Crawford are different companies. The stock crank and rods are already forged, the pistons are the weak point. Stock rods are good to 450-500 whp and the only advantage under that is to get a lighter weight rod. I have a few customers running close to 500 whp on stock rods with no issues.

06-23-2008, 08:44 PM	#11
subiecop Silver Member Car: 07 Subaru STI Location: Michigan Posts: 166 Join Date: Apr 2007 Trader Rating: (5)	Re: new internals.... could I use my stock block? currently I have 21k on it but I would have the $$ until January.

06-23-2008, 09:01 PM	#15
Icculus Silver Member Car: 07 SWP STi Fav Mod: AP Location: Asheville, NC Posts: 482 Join Date: Oct 2007 Trader Rating: (5)	Re: new internals.... FlyingPerformance, do you you have any thoughts or personal experience on the question of whether the higher dollar parts are worth it? (Say CP vs Crawford now that I know they aren't the same ) Edit: I'm a retard, just saw where you recommended the coated CP's above Wow and that's crazy. I work with a Robert Jacobs--wierd. Thanks Robert This ad is not endorsed by this member. Please register or login to hide this ad.