Wideband Option

Mart · 05-28-2008, 05:56 PM

Hi,

I am currently looking at the opensource EM and I would like to install a wideband 02 to help me tune. I am planning to use a tactrix 2.0 cable.

Apparently, 2.0 will let you log directly without the use of a laptop which sound great to me.

My questions:

1.- Is there an option or something I will be missing if I am going with a LC-1? Better suggestion?

2.- I have read in many thread and people are complaining about the longevity of the sensor. I dont want to leave it on my car all the time. Use some sort of plug on the bung on the downpipe I guess. Am I being paranoid?

thanx

Mart

***halfelite*** · 05-28-2008, 06:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mart

Hi,

I am currently looking at the opensource EM and I would like to install a wideband 02 to help me tune. I am planning to use a tactrix 2.0 cable.

Apparently, 2.0 will let you log directly without the use of a laptop which sound great to me.

My questions:

1.- Is there an option or something I will be missing if I am going with a LC-1? Better suggestion?

2.- I have read in many thread and people are complaining about the longevity of the sensor. I dont want to leave it on my car all the time. Use some sort of plug on the bung on the downpipe I guess. Am I being paranoid?

thanx

Mart

Any sensor for a wideband dont last very long all depends on luck. If it dies you just buy a new sensor most poeple go with the one from bosch its like 50 bucks or something.

ninjaboy76 · 05-28-2008, 07:02 PM

You can't go wrong with Innovative widebands. They are just about an industry standard for most tuners. As far as wideband sensors going bad, this generally takes quite a long time on pump gas. Most 02 sensors foul out due to excessive exposure to race gas with lead.

I have two widebands, and one is always in my car all the time. You need it to know when something isn't right. The outside environment, fluctuations in octane, and various other things will constantly change how a turbo charged car is running. I've had days where I get on my car and get no knock, and then the next day I get on it and it will knock. IMO its wiser to keep the wideband in at all times. In fact when most guys on here are looking at gauges, I often suggest a Wideband AFR gauge be their first or second gauge.

Clark_Kent · 05-28-2008, 07:54 PM

AEM UEGO is a viable option. Correct me if I'm wrong but I believe it can now work with the Enginuity software to add more resolution to your datalogs.

1loudsti · 05-28-2008, 07:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Clark_Kent

AEM UEGO is a viable option. Correct me if I'm wrong but I believe it can now work with the Enginuity software to add more resolution to your datalogs.

how would one wire that?

neverendingmods · 05-28-2008, 07:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ninjaboy76

You can't go wrong with Innovative widebands. They are just about an industry standard for most tuners. As far as wideband sensors going bad, this generally takes quite a long time on pump gas. Most 02 sensors foul out due to excessive exposure to race gas with lead.

I have two widebands, and one is always in my car all the time. You need it to know when something isn't right. The outside environment, fluctuations in octane, and various other things will constantly change how a turbo charged car is running. I've had days where I get on my car and get no knock, and then the next day I get on it and it will knock. IMO its wiser to keep the wideband in at all times. In fact when most guys on here are looking at gauges, I often suggest a Wideband AFR gauge be their first or second gauge.

+1 for WB gauge. Very important.

Clark_Kent · 05-29-2008, 03:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 1loudsti

how would one wire that?

I remember seeing something over on NASIOC. From what I understand there is a provision for the LC-1 in the latest software.

Micky · 05-31-2008, 04:11 AM

So general tuning question, you take your car for a dyno tune for example. You don't have the screw connection for a wideband sensor on your DP. What does the tuner do?

Mart · 05-31-2008, 04:16 AM

The tuner might plug the sensor at the end of your exhaust.

therealkaisersoze · 05-31-2008, 08:18 AM

PLX Devices makes some interesting wideband stuff

WRX4ME LE 482 · 05-31-2008, 09:08 AM

Ok, now lets attempt to answer the other question. 8 inches from the turbo outlet, or is less ok? Many DPs that come with a WBO2 port have it like 3 inches from the turbo.

sutter2k · 05-31-2008, 04:20 PM

I am very very happy with my zeitronix.

1loudsti · 06-01-2008, 12:22 AM

im looking for something i can tie in with romraider.....whats the deal with zietronix never heard of it

ninjaboy76 · 06-01-2008, 09:44 AM

Zietronix makes a nice wideband with a lot of capabilities. They also have other gauges as well. They have a software that will let you log boost and AFRs. You just have to buy stuff seperately.

Products

Team Scream · 06-02-2008, 03:49 PM

Yes it is true that the newest version of RomRaider has provisions for both the LC-1 and the AEM wideband sensors.
Previous versions were able to decipher the data as well through a plug in.

05-28-2008, 05:56 PM	#1
Mart Junior STI Driver Car: FORD FESTIVA TYPE R Fav Mod: STRIPES Location: HELL/MTL Posts: 198 Join Date: Jul 2007 Trader Rating: (1)	Wideband Option Hi, I am currently looking at the opensource EM and I would like to install a wideband 02 to help me tune. I am planning to use a tactrix 2.0 cable. Apparently, 2.0 will let you log directly without the use of a laptop which sound great to me. My questions: 1.- Is there an option or something I will be missing if I am going with a LC-1? Better suggestion? 2.- I have read in many thread and people are complaining about the longevity of the sensor. I dont want to leave it on my car all the time. Use some sort of plug on the bung on the downpipe I guess. Am I being paranoid? thanx Mart This ad is not endorsed by this member. Please register or login to hide this ad.

05-28-2008, 07:02 PM	#3
ninjaboy76 Spec C Club Car: 08 CBR1000RR Fav Mod: None Location: Kansas Posts: 2,434 Join Date: Jun 2004 Trader Rating: (6)	Re: Wideband Option You can't go wrong with Innovative widebands. They are just about an industry standard for most tuners. As far as wideband sensors going bad, this generally takes quite a long time on pump gas. Most 02 sensors foul out due to excessive exposure to race gas with lead. I have two widebands, and one is always in my car all the time. You need it to know when something isn't right. The outside environment, fluctuations in octane, and various other things will constantly change how a turbo charged car is running. I've had days where I get on my car and get no knock, and then the next day I get on it and it will knock. IMO its wiser to keep the wideband in at all times. In fact when most guys on here are looking at gauges, I often suggest a Wideband AFR gauge be their first or second gauge.

05-28-2008, 07:54 PM	#4
Clark_Kent Spec C Club Car: 2006 WRB Subaru Impr Fav Mod: Element Tuning GT52 Location: VA Posts: 1,015 Join Date: May 2006 Trader Rating: (10)	Re: Wideband Option AEM UEGO is a viable option. Correct me if I'm wrong but I believe it can now work with the Enginuity software to add more resolution to your datalogs.

05-31-2008, 04:11 AM	#8
Micky Lurker Car: Black JDM 04 STI Location: Chiba, Japan Posts: 1 Join Date: Feb 2007 Trader Rating: (0)	Re: Wideband Option So general tuning question, you take your car for a dyno tune for example. You don't have the screw connection for a wideband sensor on your DP. What does the tuner do?

05-31-2008, 04:16 AM	#9
Mart Junior STI Driver Car: FORD FESTIVA TYPE R Fav Mod: STRIPES Location: HELL/MTL Posts: 198 Join Date: Jul 2007 Trader Rating: (1)	Re: Wideband Option The tuner might plug the sensor at the end of your exhaust.

05-31-2008, 08:18 AM	#10
therealkaisersoze Amateur STI Driver Posts: 27 Join Date: Aug 2007 Trader Rating: (0)	Re: Wideband Option PLX Devices makes some interesting wideband stuff

05-31-2008, 09:08 AM	#11
WRX4ME LE 482 Spec C Club Car: '07 STi Limited #482 Fav Mod: Disabled seatbelt dinger Location: Mississippi Posts: 1,158 Join Date: Mar 2007 Trader Rating: (0)	Re: Wideband Option Ok, now lets attempt to answer the other question. 8 inches from the turbo outlet, or is less ok? Many DPs that come with a WBO2 port have it like 3 inches from the turbo.

05-31-2008, 04:20 PM	#12
sutter2k Senior STI Driver Car: Silver 08 STI(stock) Location: Willow Grove PA Posts: 362 Join Date: Dec 2005 Trader Rating: (0)	Re: Wideband Option I am very very happy with my zeitronix.

06-01-2008, 12:22 AM	#13
1loudsti Silver Member Car: CGM 05 Fav Mod: IAG 38mm EWG Location: racine,wi Posts: 1,143 Join Date: Mar 2008 Trader Rating: (1)	Re: Wideband Option im looking for something i can tie in with romraider.....whats the deal with zietronix never heard of it

06-01-2008, 09:44 AM	#14
ninjaboy76 Spec C Club Car: 08 CBR1000RR Fav Mod: None Location: Kansas Posts: 2,434 Join Date: Jun 2004 Trader Rating: (6)	Re: Wideband Option Zietronix makes a nice wideband with a lot of capabilities. They also have other gauges as well. They have a software that will let you log boost and AFRs. You just have to buy stuff seperately. Products

06-02-2008, 03:49 PM	#15
Team Scream Amateur STI Driver Car: 2006 SGM WRX 6MT Location: Los Angeles Posts: 18 Join Date: Aug 2007 Trader Rating: (0)	Re: Wideband Option Yes it is true that the newest version of RomRaider has provisions for both the LC-1 and the AEM wideband sensors. Previous versions were able to decipher the data as well through a plug in. This ad is not endorsed by this member. Please register or login to hide this ad.