[WXRTSI]

hence the 257 for 2.5 ltr and the 207 for 2.0 ltr...

[dailydriversti]

just for clarification, the 4g63 came out in late '88 i believe in the 89 plymouth laser

so they have 20 years of experience with those engines possibly.

[dailydriversti]

Originally Posted by layza4sti

was the ej25 in the 03 sti and older?? i beleave that the 4g63 has been out since 1988 or 1991, yea its old and to think there just made a new block for the evox. thats about 20 years

and sad thing the block in the new evo x is supposedly not as strong. open deck vs closed deck on the old 4g63

[06SpecC]

According to Buschur racing, the new Evo X motor (4B11T) is garbage, the engine is definetly not as strong as the 4G63 and the motor doesn't make power like the 4G63. Supposedly the Mitsubishi is really pushing the 4B11T to make the power it makes, and it looks like it can't take much more.

[STIFun]

Back to topic. As our car's not having good top-end on stock turbo I tend to disagree I think it all comes down to driver and a properly set up car. My personal car has won many hwy battles against Evo's. All this was done on stock turbo with pump and sometimes C16 tunning properly and a really good driver will go a long way. (Example last weekend I ran my friends Evo 9 with TBE, I/E Cams and Meth Inj Pro-tuned I was running MS 109 and we ran like 3 times from 50 and 60 roll and every time I would jump ahead by like half a car and then we stayed even til like 110mph.)

[BassOverflow]

Originally Posted by k4rma

Modified magazine has a good article in its January 2008 edition. Ams decided to step away from Mitsubishi for a second and to do some basic bolt on tests. They ended up surprised at the end when the subby put down more horsepower and torque, that surpased the evo by so much that some serious modifciations would have to be done to equal it. They said they spent $2200 dollars and gained 141ft/lbs of torque and 85 wheel horse power. They posed the question that it could even be a better bang for the buck than the evo.

anyone have a link to this? I'm interested to see what they did.

[WXRTSI]

LOL I bought that magazine and can't find the article in it. But as far as the new evo motor goes, it's all aluminum correct? They did that in an effort to shave weight since the rest of the car gained so much elsewhere. I haven't heard that from Buschur till I saw that post, but I'm not gonna lie...I had my suspicions, and if anyone can prove anything evo related it's Buschur!

[berdugo]

I guess the new Evo will need sleeves just to make huge power like they used to do with the 4G63 engine. I bet Buschur is the best bet to do it first safely and effectively

[RainMaker]

Originally Posted by WolfPlayer

lol. Personally, I think STIs are fairly slow. I guess I am an ignorant fop. rofl.

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And they are. They're alot of fun, though, especially in the rain.

Oh, I'm an ignorant fop too, but I knew you were one to begin with.