tgv deletes with magnus intake

metalheadinky · 01-02-2008, 03:06 AM

I am curious to find out if you buy the magnus sheet metal intake with the long runners if that means you dont have to have the tgv deletes? If that is the case would that do anything bad to your car not having the tgv deletes anymore?

kts262 · 01-02-2008, 04:23 AM

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Originally Posted by metalheadinky

I am curious to find out if you buy the magnus sheet metal intake with the long runners if that means you dont have to have the tgv deletes? If that is the case would that do anything bad to your car not having the tgv deletes anymore?

Magnus Motorsports - DSM/Mitsu Engines

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Magnus Subaru Sheetmetal Intake Manifolds - Long Runner

These manifolds are a direct replacement to the stock manifold, but eliminate the tumble generator valves (TGV). We compensate for the thickness of the TGV by adding length to the runners, which keeps the throttle body in its stock placement.

Thus the long runner version replaced the TGV system.

Your question is worded a bit wrong but I'm going to take a swing at it.

Deleting the TGVs will result in a CEL you will need to disable via engine management. In COLD weather you may have a rougher idle at startup but that should be it.

Not-deleting the TGVs will leave a few horses on the table but that's pretty much it. At BIG hp levels (like 500+) the lack of flow will hurt things but on smaller setups it's not much of a problem.

Do some research on the Magnus first, from what I remember a lot of them were blowing their welds at higher boost levels (but not that much higher from a normal stage 2 setup.)

***Neanderthal Racing*** · 01-02-2008, 05:13 AM

the magnus intake has had problems with welds and is entirely unnecessary, other than to say you have one. you will have a hard time trying to outflow the stock manifold. save your money for something meaningful.

btw, several other companies have been working on a manifold for a long time, including jeremy at crucial.

***berdugo*** · 01-02-2008, 09:33 AM

Wanna try this? Looks to me that it's well built, don't know about the airflow, and seems within the price range of the magnus

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WolfPlayer · 01-02-2008, 09:43 AM

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Originally Posted by berdugo

Wanna try this? Looks to me that it's well built, don't know about the airflow, and seems within the price range of the magnus

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That is NOT their intake manifold. It is a SUBARU intake manifold off a standard 2.5i motor that cost a few hundred dollars!!!!

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***Neanderthal Racing*** · 01-02-2008, 09:43 AM

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Originally Posted by berdugo

Wanna try this? Looks to me that it's well built, don't know about the airflow, and seems within the price range of the magnus

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following that link just reminded me why i hate their site. i refuse to be manipulated into starting an account or signing in just to view an enlargement. when they start running their site like the rest of the world i'll have some interest in the product.

as i said before, spend your money elsewhere.

***berdugo*** · 01-02-2008, 09:59 AM

Wolf, thanks for the reply. I thought they really make that product. I think about that product before. Again thanks. And nice advise Bruce. Advise well taken

**evilSTi7** · 01-02-2008, 10:05 AM

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Originally Posted by Neanderthal Racing

following that link just reminded me why i hate their site. i refuse to be manipulated into starting an account or signing in just to view an enlargement. when they start running their site like the rest of the world i'll have some interest in the product.

as i said before, spend your money elsewhere.

i didn't have to do anything besides click the picture to see a bigger view.

***Neanderthal Racing*** · 01-02-2008, 10:14 AM

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Originally Posted by evilSTi7

i didn't have to do anything besides click the picture to see a bigger view.

aren't you special...lol. it probably recognizes you. i've always had a problem with their site. i gave up on it about the same time cro magnum tapped me on the shoulder.

DING DING DING - post 5000.

01-02-2008, 03:06 AM	#1
metalheadinky Junior STI Driver Car: 07 black sti Fav Mod: free race gas Location: burlington Posts: 123 Join Date: Apr 2007 Trader Rating: (2)	tgv deletes with magnus intake I am curious to find out if you buy the magnus sheet metal intake with the long runners if that means you dont have to have the tgv deletes? If that is the case would that do anything bad to your car not having the tgv deletes anymore? This ad is not endorsed by this member. Please register or login to hide this ad.

01-02-2008, 05:13 AM	#3
*Neanderthal Racing* GT R US Car: CUTN EDG project Fav Mod: $20. mudflaps from auto zone Location: my cave Posts: 5,827 Join Date: Dec 2003 Trader Rating: (1)	Re: tgv deletes with magnus intake the magnus intake has had problems with welds and is entirely unnecessary, other than to say you have one. you will have a hard time trying to outflow the stock manifold. save your money for something meaningful. btw, several other companies have been working on a manifold for a long time, including jeremy at crucial.

01-02-2008, 09:33 AM	#4
*berdugo* Platinum Member Car: Silver Euro 07 STi Fav Mod: Modify the law! Remove the speed limits! Location: Philippines Posts: 526 Join Date: Dec 2006 Trader Rating: (0)	Re: tgv deletes with magnus intake Wanna try this? Looks to me that it's well built, don't know about the airflow, and seems within the price range of the magnus </title> <base href="http://www.xxtuning.com/xxstore/"> <link rel="stylesheet" type="text/css" href="stylesheet.css"> <script language="javascript"></script> </head> <body marginwidth="0" marginheight="0" topmargin="0" bottommargin="0" leftmargin="0"

01-02-2008, 09:59 AM	#7
*berdugo* Platinum Member Car: Silver Euro 07 STi Fav Mod: Modify the law! Remove the speed limits! Location: Philippines Posts: 526 Join Date: Dec 2006 Trader Rating: (0)	Re: tgv deletes with magnus intake Wolf, thanks for the reply. I thought they really make that product. I think about that product before. Again thanks. And nice advise Bruce. Advise well taken