WBR500ELH//WBR 500whp fmic // Catback // adapters

wbr · 12-10-2006, 08:27 AM

WBR500ELH

Fits Both types of oil pans
list price $1095.00

25mm flanges
1.62 OD tubing
.065 Wall
o2 bunge
EGT bunge
Extreme Ceramic coating inside and out

Guaranteed for as long as you own your car*
$795.00 now through Janruary..$895.00 Feb.1st
Email: Dave@wbrperformance for more info

Quote:
Originally Posted by wbr

I have to get photoshop on my laptop to post the logs. ........... I can already hear the skeptics.

06FXT --- have not gottin the 08 software yet.

NO engine Management
WBR CAI stock maf............Delta Dash Road Dyno.........
WBR500whp fmic...............3 pulls ave whp 160.5
WBR 3"catback..................3 pulls ave WT 165.0
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NO engine Management
WBR CAI stock maf.............Delta Dash Road Dyno..........
WBR500whp fmic................3 pulls ave whp188.5
WBR 3" catback..................3 pulls ave WT 178.2
WBR500ELH

same road, same day, same technique

I wish you could see the grin on my face

NO engine Management
WBR CAI stock maf.............Delta Dash Road Dyno..........
WBR500whp fmic................3 pulls ave whp217.00
WBR 3" catback..................3 pulls ave WT 198.0
WBR500ELH
WBR 3" DP no cats ... Boosting 12.5psi

Performance Makes it Own Sound

WBR500whp fmic Take a look.

Now thru Jan. $995.00 shipped list $1295.0

07 STI Limited

Bo’s ride
This intercooler can take a lot of power. It is the nicest looking kit out there,imo. I don't care if it's made in china,sudan,u.s.a. All I know is that the intercooler works flawlessly. When my car was tuned and made 373whp on a mustang dyno. The intercooler was cool to the touch and heat soak was nonexistent. My tuner was amazed of how efficient wbr intercooler was.dave; this is one hell of an intercooler.
Gruppe-S comments
Actually I'm fairly certain our dyno reads lower than MZM but that's not really important. 390 WHP on a TMIC would be pretty much impossible though. A turbo big enough to make those kinds of numbers would necessitate a FMIC. The reason for this is that a turbo that big moves and incredible amount of air. This causes heat and TMIC + heat = heat soak. This Forester ran a TMIC before it ran a FMIC and it made 22 less WHP with the TMIC than the FMIC. Also, APS doesn't make any turbos bigger than the 30R .82 that will bolt on with the stock TMIC. In any event, I'm sure that Forester was plenty fast and that there is one or several Foresters that are faster than this one somewhere in the world.
WBR500whp fmic
Driving impressions:
Note: I am running the same map as before so a retune would probably help me out greatly.
-Definite increase of intake sound level (not sure if that is due to the CAI or FMIC piping or both)
-Boost is more instantaneous for VF39 (spools quicker than w/ Helix TMIC)
-Seems like the car just keeps pulling and pulling while just getting faster and faster. (Not sure how this has effected my power curve but it doesn't feel like it is diving off as much at the higher power band)
-More, smoother torque at low rpms 1500-2500
-ECU is still learning and I still need some time to fully analyze the response/power.

Clockwise flow
It just didn’t make sense to me why the clockwise flow front mounts chose to pass over the turbo and turbo outlet pipe before entering the throttle body. I thought the whole point of front mounts was to eliminate heat soak.

Counterclockwise flow
The WBR500whp fmic was designed to eliminate heat soak, while providing optimum cooling to the intake charge. Once the hot air from the turbo enters the intercooler it never feels heat again, until it explodes in the cylinder.

This is a break through front mount at a reasonable price. List $1295.00
The black or silver ..... sale price is $995.00
E-mail Dave at : Dave@wbrperformance.com

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Sale price $450.00 shipped WBR Catback

Reg price $ 649.99
3" gaskets are $10.00 or 2 for $15.00
We have a FULL 3 inch ALL stainless steel Catback made. That means the flanges,hangers, resonator (16"), and pipe are All made out of 304T stainless steel. This will fit all years WRX, STI's.

__________________________________________________ __________________________________________________ ___________
WBR 3" AXLEBACK New shipment in stock NOW 12-30-07
All 304T stainless steel
Flanges
Mandrel bend tubing
Muffler
Tip
Hangers
Guaranteed under 95db (on an otherwise stock vehicle.) Calif. legal limit.

Fits All STI, WRX models, 04+Foresters
Available with: Black muffler/polished tip
................. : Polished muffler/polished tip

$275.00 shipped//Reg. $399.00
Optional--2.5/3.0 adapter $59.95//Reg.$89.95
3" gaskets are $10.00 or 2 for $15.00
Paypal : Dave@wbrperformance.com

Sound. This is what is most important to everyone. At idle, I was surprised that it was about as loud as my FAT, which isn't bad. It's still not obnoxious. Driving around is where this axleback shines. It isn't as loud as the FAT or my previous 2.5 TXS axleback. Probably a bit quieter than the WRX Prodrive I had on there. It's nice at highway speeds. I no longer have to turn up the radio to obscene levels to enjoy it. No highway drone whatsoever. It's not as aggressive as the FAT, but aggressive exhausts are for riced out Honda fartboxes anyway. I'm 38. I would like what hearing I have left to last me til I drop dead. This axleback will help.
All in all it is a good alternative to all of the louder 3 inchers out there and is also a bit quieter than the 2.5 Prodrive which is probably the most popular "quiet" exhaust for a Suby.
The price is also better than pretty much any other axleback you can get.
Good work Dave.

Guaranteed under 95db (on an otherwise stock vehicle.) Calif. legal limit.
Fits 02+WRX
04+STI
04+Forester

$275.00 shipped //Reg. $399.00
3" gaskets are $10.00 or 2 for $15.00
Paypal : Dave@wbrperformance.com

3"midpipe 16"resonator all 304ss.$175.00 shipped

OPTIONAL ADAPTER
All 304T stainless steel
CNC machined
Studs press fit
Tig welded
For proper fit of a 3" axleback to the stock 2.5 midpipe. We also have adapters for 3"DP to stock midpipe//AND Stock DP to 3"Midpipe As well as 3"midpipe to 2.5" stock axleback
ALL 304-T stainless steel.
CNC machined
Studs are press fit
Tig welded
List $89.95
Sale Price $59.95

*email dave@wbrperformance for details

wbr · 12-11-2006, 06:46 AM

Happy Holidays, Thank for choosing WBR

wbr · 12-12-2006, 04:53 PM

Holiday Sale

wbr · 12-13-2006, 02:12 PM

bump for the holidays

wbr · 12-17-2006, 04:14 PM

I finally got around to putting this on tonite. Impressions:

1) Fit. It took me a bit of wrestling to get it on because the flange appeared to be slightly off. I could have opened the holes up a bit but I just removed the rear hanger (the one that has the threaded bolt and I was able to twist the axleback around slightly to line up the holes. I have a maddad midpipe with flex section. I didn't have a problem lining up my FAT 3 inch axleback so I think it might be the WBR axleback that was slightly off but a little musceling got it to fit fine. 5 minutes with a bigger drill bit would have worked too, but I was limited with my light and the other hangers were already attached. I didnt' want to pull the whole thing back off.

2) Finish. It looks pretty much as described. I like the look and when I finally got it on it fits well centered in the bumper cutout. There was some masking tape still on the axleback where the main pipe enters the muffler. This was used during the painting/powdercoating process to make the muffler black. They didn't remove the tape so I had to get out my knife and do some scraping. It didn't come off easily and there are still some remains there but it isn't noticeable unless you're under the car and I figure the heat will probably make short work of it anyway.

3) Sound. This is what is most important to everyone. At idle, I was surprised that it was about as loud as my FAT, which isn't bad. It's still not obnoxious. Driving around is where this axleback shines. It isn't as loud as the FAT or my previous 2.5 TXS axleback. Probably a bit quieter than the WRX Prodrive I had on there. It's nice at highway speeds. I no longer have to turn up the radio to obscene levels to enjoy it. No highway drone whatsoever. It's not as aggressive as the FAT, but aggressive exhausts are for riced out Honda fartboxes anyway. I'm 38. I would like what hearing I have left to last me til I drop dead. This axleback will help.

All in all it is a good alternative to all of the louder 3 inchers out there and is also a bit quieter than the 2.5 Prodrive which is probably the most popular "quiet" exhaust for a Suby.

The price is also better than pretty much any other axleback you can get.

Good work Dave.

Frank Mowry

Dos531 · 12-17-2006, 04:58 PM

Will this work with an APS cai?

wbr · 12-17-2006, 05:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dos531

Will this work with an APS cai?

ABSOLUTELY

wbr

wbr · 12-18-2006, 11:33 AM

Well, I've had this exhaust in my garage for over a week and it's been killing me not to have time for the install. I finally got a spare hour yesterday and bolted it on. Easy install overall and no alignment issues with my adaptor. Just cut a couple of gaskets from a spare exhaust gasket sheet I had laying around (used the adaptor to trace templates) and bolted it up in about 30 minutes.

One note to anyone with a Drawtite hitch: THE EXHAUST IS A TIGHT FIT! The Drawtite doesn't allow quite enough clearance for the exhaust tip with the stock hangers. I muscled it in, but the top of exhaust tip is now sitting flush against the Drawtite crossbar. So tightly against it in fact that it doesn't move - at all. I'll have to get some longer hangers or extend the stock ones with some looped clamps. For now, it seems fine. Absolutely no banging/rattling against the hitch (it's just too frickin' tight to move).

Sound:
This is what everyone wants to know of course. In my opinion, it *rocks*. I was worried when I first cranked the motor, because it seemed fairly loud, but since I've put a few miles on it (have about 1.5 hours on the car since install), the tone has mellowed a but. In general, it has an excellent, deep bass drum pounding at WOT and a low burble at cruise and idle. On the highway, I have *way* more wind/road noise than exhaust noise. Overall, I'm quite happy with the sound. My brother thinks it sounds like his stock Harley exhaust at WOT when he is wearing his full face helmet. I tend to agree, although the note timing and tone seems slightly different to me.

My 2.5 year old son asked me "is it a race car daddy?" (he's into the movie "Cars" right now) on the way to the post office this morning. He loves it, so it's kid approved. :icon_wink:

cheers,
Scott

wbr · 12-19-2006, 08:35 PM

Holiday sale

wbr · 12-24-2006, 12:54 PM

Year end sale

wbr · 12-25-2006, 08:06 AM

Ho_ho_ho

wbr · 12-26-2006, 07:50 AM

happy new year soon

krazyk1371 · 12-26-2006, 03:57 PM

Can I get this fmic with black piping instead of the chrome. I'm trying to keep my car sleeper and I don't want the bling of the piping in my engine bay.

Also is this fmic compatible with the k&n typhoon intake and or what intakes are compatible with this?

wbr · 12-26-2006, 04:32 PM

Hello ,

Yes it comes with black piping,///WBR CAI-- stock 2.75" or 3" maf tube
$249.00 list price $195.00 with fmic purchase.

WBR
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wbr · 12-29-2006, 07:26 AM

Let's get it started....Hey

12-10-2006, 08:27 AM	#1
wbr Professional STI Driver Car: 06FXT Fav Mod: WBR-GT30R Location: Santa Barbara Posts: 431 Join Date: Aug 2006 Trader Rating: (5)	WBR500ELH//WBR 500whp fmic // Catback // adapters WBR500ELH Fits Both types of oil pans list price $1095.00 25mm flanges 1.62 OD tubing .065 Wall o2 bunge EGT bunge Extreme Ceramic coating inside and out Guaranteed for as long as you own your car* $795.00 now through Janruary..$895.00 Feb.1st Email: Dave@wbrperformance for more info Quote: Originally Posted by wbr I have to get photoshop on my laptop to post the logs. ........... I can already hear the skeptics. 06FXT --- have not gottin the 08 software yet. NO engine Management WBR CAI stock maf............Delta Dash Road Dyno......... WBR500whp fmic...............3 pulls ave whp 160.5 WBR 3"catback..................3 pulls ave WT 165.0 . . . NO engine Management WBR CAI stock maf.............Delta Dash Road Dyno.......... WBR500whp fmic................3 pulls ave whp188.5 WBR 3" catback..................3 pulls ave WT 178.2 WBR500ELH same road, same day, same technique I wish you could see the grin on my face NO engine Management WBR CAI stock maf.............Delta Dash Road Dyno.......... WBR500whp fmic................3 pulls ave whp217.00 WBR 3" catback..................3 pulls ave WT 198.0 WBR500ELH WBR 3" DP no cats ... Boosting 12.5psi Performance Makes it Own Sound WBR500whp fmic Take a look. Now thru Jan. $995.00 shipped list $1295.0 07 STI Limited Bo’s ride This intercooler can take a lot of power. It is the nicest looking kit out there,imo. I don't care if it's made in china,sudan,u.s.a. All I know is that the intercooler works flawlessly. When my car was tuned and made 373whp on a mustang dyno. The intercooler was cool to the touch and heat soak was nonexistent. My tuner was amazed of how efficient wbr intercooler was.dave; this is one hell of an intercooler. Gruppe-S comments Actually I'm fairly certain our dyno reads lower than MZM but that's not really important. 390 WHP on a TMIC would be pretty much impossible though. A turbo big enough to make those kinds of numbers would necessitate a FMIC. The reason for this is that a turbo that big moves and incredible amount of air. This causes heat and TMIC + heat = heat soak. This Forester ran a TMIC before it ran a FMIC and it made 22 less WHP with the TMIC than the FMIC. Also, APS doesn't make any turbos bigger than the 30R .82 that will bolt on with the stock TMIC. In any event, I'm sure that Forester was plenty fast and that there is one or several Foresters that are faster than this one somewhere in the world. WBR500whp fmic Driving impressions: Note: I am running the same map as before so a retune would probably help me out greatly. -Definite increase of intake sound level (not sure if that is due to the CAI or FMIC piping or both) -Boost is more instantaneous for VF39 (spools quicker than w/ Helix TMIC) -Seems like the car just keeps pulling and pulling while just getting faster and faster. (Not sure how this has effected my power curve but it doesn't feel like it is diving off as much at the higher power band) -More, smoother torque at low rpms 1500-2500 -ECU is still learning and I still need some time to fully analyze the response/power. Clockwise flow It just didn’t make sense to me why the clockwise flow front mounts chose to pass over the turbo and turbo outlet pipe before entering the throttle body. I thought the whole point of front mounts was to eliminate heat soak. Counterclockwise flow The WBR500whp fmic was designed to eliminate heat soak, while providing optimum cooling to the intake charge. Once the hot air from the turbo enters the intercooler it never feels heat again, until it explodes in the cylinder. This is a break through front mount at a reasonable price. List $1295.00 The black or silver ..... sale price is $995.00 E-mail Dave at : Dave@wbrperformance.com -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Sale price $450.00 shipped WBR Catback Reg price $ 649.99 3" gaskets are $10.00 or 2 for $15.00 We have a FULL 3 inch ALL stainless steel Catback made. That means the flanges,hangers, resonator (16"), and pipe are All made out of 304T stainless steel. This will fit all years WRX, STI's. __________________________________________________ __________________________________________________ ___________ WBR 3" AXLEBACK New shipment in stock NOW 12-30-07 All 304T stainless steel Flanges Mandrel bend tubing Muffler Tip Hangers Guaranteed under 95db (on an otherwise stock vehicle.) Calif. legal limit. Fits All STI, WRX models, 04+Foresters Available with: Black muffler/polished tip ................. : Polished muffler/polished tip $275.00 shipped//Reg. $399.00 Optional--2.5/3.0 adapter $59.95//Reg.$89.95 3" gaskets are $10.00 or 2 for $15.00 Paypal : Dave@wbrperformance.com Sound. This is what is most important to everyone. At idle, I was surprised that it was about as loud as my FAT, which isn't bad. It's still not obnoxious. Driving around is where this axleback shines. It isn't as loud as the FAT or my previous 2.5 TXS axleback. Probably a bit quieter than the WRX Prodrive I had on there. It's nice at highway speeds. I no longer have to turn up the radio to obscene levels to enjoy it. No highway drone whatsoever. It's not as aggressive as the FAT, but aggressive exhausts are for riced out Honda fartboxes anyway. I'm 38. I would like what hearing I have left to last me til I drop dead. This axleback will help. All in all it is a good alternative to all of the louder 3 inchers out there and is also a bit quieter than the 2.5 Prodrive which is probably the most popular "quiet" exhaust for a Suby. The price is also better than pretty much any other axleback you can get. Good work Dave. Guaranteed under 95db (on an otherwise stock vehicle.) Calif. legal limit. Fits 02+WRX 04+STI 04+Forester $275.00 shipped //Reg. $399.00 3" gaskets are $10.00 or 2 for $15.00 Paypal : Dave@wbrperformance.com 3"midpipe 16"resonator all 304ss.$175.00 shipped OPTIONAL ADAPTER All 304T stainless steel CNC machined Studs press fit Tig welded For proper fit of a 3" axleback to the stock 2.5 midpipe. We also have adapters for 3"DP to stock midpipe//AND Stock DP to 3"Midpipe As well as 3"midpipe to 2.5" stock axleback ALL 304-T stainless steel. CNC machined Studs are press fit Tig welded List $89.95 Sale Price $59.95 email dave@wbrperformance for details This ad is not endorsed by this member. Please register or login to hide this ad. Last edited by wbr : 01-26-2008 at 07:52 AM. Reason: sale*

12-12-2006, 04:53 PM	#3
wbr Professional STI Driver Car: 06FXT Fav Mod: WBR-GT30R Location: Santa Barbara Posts: 431 Join Date: Aug 2006 Trader Rating: (5)	sale Holiday Sale

12-17-2006, 04:14 PM	#5
wbr Professional STI Driver Car: 06FXT Fav Mod: WBR-GT30R Location: Santa Barbara Posts: 431 Join Date: Aug 2006 Trader Rating: (5)	axleback report I finally got around to putting this on tonite. Impressions: 1) Fit. It took me a bit of wrestling to get it on because the flange appeared to be slightly off. I could have opened the holes up a bit but I just removed the rear hanger (the one that has the threaded bolt and I was able to twist the axleback around slightly to line up the holes. I have a maddad midpipe with flex section. I didn't have a problem lining up my FAT 3 inch axleback so I think it might be the WBR axleback that was slightly off but a little musceling got it to fit fine. 5 minutes with a bigger drill bit would have worked too, but I was limited with my light and the other hangers were already attached. I didnt' want to pull the whole thing back off. 2) Finish. It looks pretty much as described. I like the look and when I finally got it on it fits well centered in the bumper cutout. There was some masking tape still on the axleback where the main pipe enters the muffler. This was used during the painting/powdercoating process to make the muffler black. They didn't remove the tape so I had to get out my knife and do some scraping. It didn't come off easily and there are still some remains there but it isn't noticeable unless you're under the car and I figure the heat will probably make short work of it anyway. 3) Sound. This is what is most important to everyone. At idle, I was surprised that it was about as loud as my FAT, which isn't bad. It's still not obnoxious. Driving around is where this axleback shines. It isn't as loud as the FAT or my previous 2.5 TXS axleback. Probably a bit quieter than the WRX Prodrive I had on there. It's nice at highway speeds. I no longer have to turn up the radio to obscene levels to enjoy it. No highway drone whatsoever. It's not as aggressive as the FAT, but aggressive exhausts are for riced out Honda fartboxes anyway. I'm 38. I would like what hearing I have left to last me til I drop dead. This axleback will help. All in all it is a good alternative to all of the louder 3 inchers out there and is also a bit quieter than the 2.5 Prodrive which is probably the most popular "quiet" exhaust for a Suby. The price is also better than pretty much any other axleback you can get. Good work Dave. Frank Mowry

12-18-2006, 11:33 AM	#8
wbr Professional STI Driver Car: 06FXT Fav Mod: WBR-GT30R Location: Santa Barbara Posts: 431 Join Date: Aug 2006 Trader Rating: (5)	review Well, I've had this exhaust in my garage for over a week and it's been killing me not to have time for the install. I finally got a spare hour yesterday and bolted it on. Easy install overall and no alignment issues with my adaptor. Just cut a couple of gaskets from a spare exhaust gasket sheet I had laying around (used the adaptor to trace templates) and bolted it up in about 30 minutes. One note to anyone with a Drawtite hitch: THE EXHAUST IS A TIGHT FIT! The Drawtite doesn't allow quite enough clearance for the exhaust tip with the stock hangers. I muscled it in, but the top of exhaust tip is now sitting flush against the Drawtite crossbar. So tightly against it in fact that it doesn't move - at all. I'll have to get some longer hangers or extend the stock ones with some looped clamps. For now, it seems fine. Absolutely no banging/rattling against the hitch (it's just too frickin' tight to move). Sound: This is what everyone wants to know of course. In my opinion, it rocks. I was worried when I first cranked the motor, because it seemed fairly loud, but since I've put a few miles on it (have about 1.5 hours on the car since install), the tone has mellowed a but. In general, it has an excellent, deep bass drum pounding at WOT and a low burble at cruise and idle. On the highway, I have way more wind/road noise than exhaust noise. Overall, I'm quite happy with the sound. My brother thinks it sounds like his stock Harley exhaust at WOT when he is wearing his full face helmet. I tend to agree, although the note timing and tone seems slightly different to me. My 2.5 year old son asked me "is it a race car daddy?" (he's into the movie "Cars" right now) on the way to the post office this morning. He loves it, so it's kid approved. :icon_wink: cheers, Scott

12-19-2006, 08:35 PM	#9
wbr Professional STI Driver Car: 06FXT Fav Mod: WBR-GT30R Location: Santa Barbara Posts: 431 Join Date: Aug 2006 Trader Rating: (5)	sale Holiday sale

12-11-2006, 06:46 AM	#2
wbr Professional STI Driver Car: 06FXT Fav Mod: WBR-GT30R Location: Santa Barbara Posts: 431 Join Date: Aug 2006 Trader Rating: (5)	Happy Holidays, Thank for choosing WBR

12-13-2006, 02:12 PM	#4
wbr Professional STI Driver Car: 06FXT Fav Mod: WBR-GT30R Location: Santa Barbara Posts: 431 Join Date: Aug 2006 Trader Rating: (5)	bump for the holidays

12-17-2006, 04:58 PM	#6
Dos531 Professional STI Racer Car: 06 Evo IX SE Fav Mod: My skillz Location: Redlands/Riverside CA Posts: 668 Join Date: Aug 2006 Trader Rating: (3)	Will this work with an APS cai?

12-24-2006, 12:54 PM	#10
wbr Professional STI Driver Car: 06FXT Fav Mod: WBR-GT30R Location: Santa Barbara Posts: 431 Join Date: Aug 2006 Trader Rating: (5)	Year end sale

12-25-2006, 08:06 AM	#11
wbr Professional STI Driver Car: 06FXT Fav Mod: WBR-GT30R Location: Santa Barbara Posts: 431 Join Date: Aug 2006 Trader Rating: (5)	Ho_ho_ho

12-26-2006, 07:50 AM	#12
wbr Professional STI Driver Car: 06FXT Fav Mod: WBR-GT30R Location: Santa Barbara Posts: 431 Join Date: Aug 2006 Trader Rating: (5)	happy new year soon

12-26-2006, 03:57 PM	#13
krazyk1371 Professional STI Racer Car: '06 WRB/Silver STI Fav Mod: Kartboy Gear Location: San Marcos, Ca. Posts: 702 Join Date: Mar 2006 Trader Rating: (1)	Can I get this fmic with black piping instead of the chrome. I'm trying to keep my car sleeper and I don't want the bling of the piping in my engine bay. Also is this fmic compatible with the k&n typhoon intake and or what intakes are compatible with this?

12-26-2006, 04:32 PM	#14
wbr Professional STI Driver Car: 06FXT Fav Mod: WBR-GT30R Location: Santa Barbara Posts: 431 Join Date: Aug 2006 Trader Rating: (5)	fmic Hello , Yes it comes with black piping,///WBR CAI-- stock 2.75" or 3" maf tube $249.00 list price $195.00 with fmic purchase. WBR -----

12-29-2006, 07:26 AM	#15
wbr Professional STI Driver Car: 06FXT Fav Mod: WBR-GT30R Location: Santa Barbara Posts: 431 Join Date: Aug 2006 Trader Rating: (5)	bump Let's get it started....Hey This ad is not endorsed by this member. Please register or login to hide this ad.