AP V2 STGII: "Realtime" or "Reflash" feature

crand002 · 12-29-2006, 05:44 PM

What is the difference? I am using realtime but I don't have a clue why. I just have a TBE. Should I have gone with the reflash? I also chose STG II 91 VIII

Thanks

MyNameIsTyler · 12-30-2006, 09:25 AM

Reflash = The map loaded on your ECU. This is the base map your car uses whenever its turned on.
Realtime = Anytime you want to use the 'valet' maps or 'econo' maps, you use a realtime map. It goes away after you reset your ECU.

So, REFLASH to whatever map you will always be driving on (Stg2 @ 91 oct) and whenever you want to use a different map to try out, use realtime.

crand002 · 12-30-2006, 06:14 PM

Thanks. Oops I have been running the realtime map the last couple of days. Is that bad?

mug23 · 12-30-2006, 11:13 PM

You must have flash a base map when you did the install of the AP? Which map did you choose when you did the AP install?

crand002 · 12-31-2006, 07:27 AM

91 Stage 1 and then when I but on the TBE I switched to 91 stage 2 realtime. The manual this thing comes with is useless. It really pisses me off.

MyNameIsTyler · 12-31-2006, 07:33 AM

Ya - just reflash to the stage 2 map now.

crand002 · 12-31-2006, 08:02 AM

thanks

STI23 · 01-31-2007, 12:14 PM

My AP2 will be here in a couple of days. Can you run on realtime from the beginning without reflashing it? Realtime maps work without the AP connected to the car? How many time can you reflash your ecu? I can't remember the exact number.

wrxroy · 01-31-2007, 12:21 PM

When you are "marrying" or flashing the A.P. for the first time, you have to choose a base map to send to the ECU. if you have a downpipe or TBE, then you should choose stage 2 and whatever octane gas you are going top be feeding your subie with. If the car doesn't have any mods, then it's stage one and whatever octane you're going to be using. After the intial flash, you may then run Realtime maps.

FYI:Even though it doesn't say to, you need to dis connect the green connectors after you do the initial set up.

Hope that answered you're questions.

flatthump · 01-31-2007, 12:23 PM

The realtime maps arent able to save 'Disabled Cel's" anyways....

STI23 · 01-31-2007, 12:24 PM

thanks man, why can't you just run the realtime map with the factory map?

wrxroy · 01-31-2007, 12:28 PM

When you are marrying the accessport to the car, it stores the factory map in the accessport for when you decide to un-marry it, it can put the stock/factory map back into the ECU.

The whole point to getting E.M. is so that you're car will run better/safer and to get the most out of the modifications you put on the car.

With the a.p. you can flash reatime maps as many times as you want.

applehat · 01-31-2007, 03:48 PM

I think what he ment was - how long untille the EEPROM poops out from being writen onto...ints not exactly ment to be a Read write sort of thing ;D

mknack · 01-31-2007, 09:43 PM

You have to reflash to a new base map when you first load it onto the car. After that, you can use realtime updates as many times as you wish. The realtime updates only change 9 of the 23 (I think) parameters of the base map. So when you go back, you are changing those 9 parameters back and thus going back to a full blown stage 2.

I dont think there is a limit to how many times you can reflash things, its just a relative matter like any other mod. If its going to go bad, it will.

STI23 · 02-01-2007, 06:17 AM

So if you have the base map flashed, you almost never need to reflash a realtime? Just for a stage1 guy, like myself for the time being, the basemap that is used on start up would be good enough to race around on the streets? Then you could use realtime for valet, theft, etc? Sorry, I'm just having a hard time trying to make sense of when a realtime would be necessary.

12-29-2006, 05:44 PM	#1
crand002 The Next Petter Solberg Car: 06 WRX STI Fav Mod: Front license plate delete Location: San Diego Posts: 878 Join Date: Aug 2006 Trader Rating: (2)	AP V2 STGII: "Realtime" or "Reflash" feature What is the difference? I am using realtime but I don't have a clue why. I just have a TBE. Should I have gone with the reflash? I also chose STG II 91 VIII Thanks This ad is not endorsed by this member. Please register or login to hide this ad.

02-01-2007, 06:17 AM	#15
STI23 STI Driver Car: 07 SWP STI Fav Mod: Strength Shoes Location: Los Angeles, Oklahoma Posts: 256 Join Date: Jan 2007 Trader Rating: (2)	So if you have the base map flashed, you almost never need to reflash a realtime? Just for a stage1 guy, like myself for the time being, the basemap that is used on start up would be good enough to race around on the streets? Then you could use realtime for valet, theft, etc? Sorry, I'm just having a hard time trying to make sense of when a realtime would be necessary. This ad is not endorsed by this member. Please register or login to hide this ad.

12-30-2006, 09:25 AM	#2
MyNameIsTyler Junior STI Driver Car: 05 STi Fav Mod: APv2 Location: Colorado Posts: 79 Join Date: Oct 2006 Trader Rating: (0)	Reflash = The map loaded on your ECU. This is the base map your car uses whenever its turned on. Realtime = Anytime you want to use the 'valet' maps or 'econo' maps, you use a realtime map. It goes away after you reset your ECU. So, REFLASH to whatever map you will always be driving on (Stg2 @ 91 oct) and whenever you want to use a different map to try out, use realtime.

12-30-2006, 06:14 PM	#3
crand002 The Next Petter Solberg Car: 06 WRX STI Fav Mod: Front license plate delete Location: San Diego Posts: 878 Join Date: Aug 2006 Trader Rating: (2)	Thanks. Oops I have been running the realtime map the last couple of days. Is that bad?

12-30-2006, 11:13 PM	#4
mug23 Professional STI Racer Car: 05 WRX STi Location: Former Bostonian now in U Posts: 611 Join Date: Apr 2005 Trader Rating: (1)	You must have flash a base map when you did the install of the AP? Which map did you choose when you did the AP install?

12-31-2006, 07:27 AM	#5
crand002 The Next Petter Solberg Car: 06 WRX STI Fav Mod: Front license plate delete Location: San Diego Posts: 878 Join Date: Aug 2006 Trader Rating: (2)	91 Stage 1 and then when I but on the TBE I switched to 91 stage 2 realtime. The manual this thing comes with is useless. It really pisses me off.

12-31-2006, 07:33 AM	#6
MyNameIsTyler Junior STI Driver Car: 05 STi Fav Mod: APv2 Location: Colorado Posts: 79 Join Date: Oct 2006 Trader Rating: (0)	Ya - just reflash to the stage 2 map now.

12-31-2006, 08:02 AM	#7
crand002 The Next Petter Solberg Car: 06 WRX STI Fav Mod: Front license plate delete Location: San Diego Posts: 878 Join Date: Aug 2006 Trader Rating: (2)	thanks

01-31-2007, 12:14 PM	#8
STI23 STI Driver Car: 07 SWP STI Fav Mod: Strength Shoes Location: Los Angeles, Oklahoma Posts: 256 Join Date: Jan 2007 Trader Rating: (2)	My AP2 will be here in a couple of days. Can you run on realtime from the beginning without reflashing it? Realtime maps work without the AP connected to the car? How many time can you reflash your ecu? I can't remember the exact number.

01-31-2007, 12:21 PM	#9
wrxroy Junior STI Driver Car: 04 Subaru WRX STi Fav Mod: Exhaust, Cleared Headlights Location: Salt Lake City. UT Posts: 176 Join Date: Aug 2006 Trader Rating: (0)	When you are "marrying" or flashing the A.P. for the first time, you have to choose a base map to send to the ECU. if you have a downpipe or TBE, then you should choose stage 2 and whatever octane gas you are going top be feeding your subie with. If the car doesn't have any mods, then it's stage one and whatever octane you're going to be using. After the intial flash, you may then run Realtime maps. FYI:Even though it doesn't say to, you need to dis connect the green connectors after you do the initial set up. Hope that answered you're questions.

01-31-2007, 12:23 PM	#10
flatthump Enginerd Car: The Spaze Mobile Fav Mod: Tuning Location: South O.C., Ca Posts: 13,020 Join Date: Jan 2006 Trader Rating: (5)	The realtime maps arent able to save 'Disabled Cel's" anyways....

01-31-2007, 12:24 PM	#11
STI23 STI Driver Car: 07 SWP STI Fav Mod: Strength Shoes Location: Los Angeles, Oklahoma Posts: 256 Join Date: Jan 2007 Trader Rating: (2)	thanks man, why can't you just run the realtime map with the factory map?

01-31-2007, 12:28 PM	#12
wrxroy Junior STI Driver Car: 04 Subaru WRX STi Fav Mod: Exhaust, Cleared Headlights Location: Salt Lake City. UT Posts: 176 Join Date: Aug 2006 Trader Rating: (0)	When you are marrying the accessport to the car, it stores the factory map in the accessport for when you decide to un-marry it, it can put the stock/factory map back into the ECU. The whole point to getting E.M. is so that you're car will run better/safer and to get the most out of the modifications you put on the car. With the a.p. you can flash reatime maps as many times as you want.

01-31-2007, 03:48 PM	#13
applehat Junior STI Driver Car: 2006 Subaru Impreza Location: Huntsville, AL Posts: 91 Join Date: Oct 2006 Trader Rating: (0)	I think what he ment was - how long untille the EEPROM poops out from being writen onto...ints not exactly ment to be a Read write sort of thing ;D

01-31-2007, 09:43 PM	#14
mknack Junior STI Driver Car: 04 WRX STI Fav Mod: APS 3.5 in tbe Location: california Posts: 101 Join Date: Jul 2006 Trader Rating: (0)	You have to reflash to a new base map when you first load it onto the car. After that, you can use realtime updates as many times as you wish. The realtime updates only change 9 of the 23 (I think) parameters of the base map. So when you go back, you are changing those 9 parameters back and thus going back to a full blown stage 2. I dont think there is a limit to how many times you can reflash things, its just a relative matter like any other mod. If its going to go bad, it will.