Mass used AP's F/S before new one hits?

EricK · 09-10-2006, 08:56 AM

Not sure if people have been keeping track of the new AP that Cobb is gonna release in future but wondering if guys with current AP's are gonna sell before new one comes out.I just bought a used AP about a month ago & plan on selling it once car is put away for winter.Should be able to get my money out of it.Some of the things on the new AP coming out will be to nice not to have.

BluSTiKy · 09-10-2006, 09:31 AM

Have a link to this new AP info?

05_GD7 · 09-10-2006, 10:56 AM

I don't forsee a mass sale of used ones.

Like myself, I wager that 90% of the owners out there flash their cars, then leave the AP in the basement for months and months....No reason to go thru the hassle of unmarrying, selling, then buying the new one, that is just going to flash the car, then sit in the basement for months and months.

2fas4u · 09-11-2006, 06:09 AM

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Originally Posted by EricK

Not sure if people have been keeping track of the new AP that Cobb is gonna release in future but wondering if guys with current AP's are gonna sell before new one comes out.I just bought a used AP about a month ago & plan on selling it once car is put away for winter.Should be able to get my money out of it.Some of the things on the new AP coming out will be to nice not to have.

Why would you think we would sell our older ones? It is an item you will use a few times and probably never again.. The new one is really not much different than the current one except it is a bit more flashy. Dont let anyone tell you it will be faster in loading to the ECU. The OBD port on the car has not changed and is limited in speed....

**WolfPlayer** · 09-11-2006, 07:42 AM

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Originally Posted by 2fas4u

Why would you think we would sell our older ones? It is an item you will use a few times and probably never again.. The new one is really not much different than the current one except it is a bit more flashy. Dont let anyone tell you it will be faster in loading to the ECU. The OBD port on the car has not changed and is limited in speed....

This statement is wrong. I know for a fact that the new AP flashes the ECU at least 10x quicker. Period. Please stop spreading this misinformation. The new AP does flash the ECU quicker. The problem isn't with the OBD protocol. It is with the older AP - and it's not really a problem - it's just that the older AccessPORT wasn't configured optimally for increased speed on flashing.

The old AccessPORT would take approximately 10-15 minutes to flash an updated base map on my ECU (~20-25 for the initial base map reflash). The new AP will do it in 1-2 minutes for an update. Using the do-it-yourself ECU flashing tools I can do a base map reflash with ignition, fueling, AVCS, etc in 30 seconds (just timed it last night).

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EricK · 09-12-2006, 03:58 AM

Wolfplayer is correct.Also some new features that are gonna come out for the AP will not be available to the old unit.I for one do not want a old unit & not be able to use the possible anti-lag,two-step limiter & flat foot shift maps.

2fas4u · 09-12-2006, 06:00 AM

Thanks for the info this is the first I have heard of this concerning the speed of flashes. I still dont see the draw as I am not flashing maps every other day, but hey to each their own....

windmill · 09-12-2006, 01:16 PM

So when is the new one coming out? It sounds like a few people out there have beta units already. I'm finally going to get an AP in November or December. Would it be wise to wait a little longer for the newer version?

I've had my STi for over three years now, and it's still stock, so I can wait another month or two

flatthump · 09-12-2006, 01:23 PM

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Originally Posted by EricK

Wolfplayer is correct.Also some new features that are gonna come out for the AP will not be available to the old unit.I for one do not want a old unit & not be able to use the possible anti-lag,two-step limiter & flat foot shift maps.

An anti lag map. WTF? Please explain.

EricK · 09-12-2006, 02:31 PM

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Originally Posted by flatthump

An anti lag map. WTF? Please explain.

It has been mentioned that Cobb has some very exciting new maps coming soon.What has not been said is if they will be available only to the new AP coming out or not.

flatthump · 09-12-2006, 07:27 PM

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Originally Posted by EricK

It has been mentioned that Cobb has some very exciting new maps coming soon.What has not been said is if they will be available only to the new AP coming out or not.

I see. A magical anti-lag map.

05_GD7 · 09-15-2006, 05:24 PM

yeah, Cobb will come out with exciting new maps, which can be flashed using the old AP

0bluesti4 · 09-15-2006, 10:13 PM

Here is a short thread on AP 2.0 and I mean its really short!

http://www.cobbforums.com/forums/showthread.php?t=31520

Here is an image from the thread above...

KiNgMaRtY · 09-16-2006, 08:51 AM

looks nice. I wonder if they will be more $?

09-10-2006, 08:56 AM	#1
EricK Senior STI Driver Car: Soon Evo IX RS Location: Madison,WI Posts: 328 IWSTI Addict since: Sep 2005 Trader Rating: (5)	Mass used AP's F/S before new one hits? Not sure if people have been keeping track of the new AP that Cobb is gonna release in future but wondering if guys with current AP's are gonna sell before new one comes out.I just bought a used AP about a month ago & plan on selling it once car is put away for winter.Should be able to get my money out of it.Some of the things on the new AP coming out will be to nice not to have. This ad is not endorsed by this member. Please register or login to hide this ad.

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KiNgMaRtY Spec C Club Car: 05 STI Fav Mod: Invidia N1-R Location: Anaheim, CA Posts: 1,311 IWSTI Addict since: Sep 2004 Trader Rating: (5)	looks nice. I wonder if they will be more $? This ad is not endorsed by this member. Please register or login to hide this ad.

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09-10-2006, 09:31 AM	#2
BluSTiKy Junior STI Driver Car: 06 Subaru WRX STI Fav Mod: Stage 2 Location: Evansville, IN Posts: 102 IWSTI Addict since: Mar 2006 Trader Rating: (1)	Have a link to this new AP info?

09-10-2006, 10:56 AM	#3
05_GD7 Spec C Club Car: 05 STi - Black Fav Mod: No Lien Location: Ontario, Canada Posts: 1,950 IWSTI Addict since: Mar 2006 Trader Rating: (2)	I don't forsee a mass sale of used ones. Like myself, I wager that 90% of the owners out there flash their cars, then leave the AP in the basement for months and months....No reason to go thru the hassle of unmarrying, selling, then buying the new one, that is just going to flash the car, then sit in the basement for months and months.

09-12-2006, 03:58 AM	#6
EricK Senior STI Driver Car: Soon Evo IX RS Location: Madison,WI Posts: 328 IWSTI Addict since: Sep 2005 Trader Rating: (5)	Wolfplayer is correct.Also some new features that are gonna come out for the AP will not be available to the old unit.I for one do not want a old unit & not be able to use the possible anti-lag,two-step limiter & flat foot shift maps.

09-12-2006, 06:00 AM	#7
2fas4u Silver Member Car: 05 & 09 WRB STI Location: Manchester, Maryland Posts: 2,270 IWSTI Addict since: Aug 2005 Trader Rating: (4)	Thanks for the info this is the first I have heard of this concerning the speed of flashes. I still dont see the draw as I am not flashing maps every other day, but hey to each their own....

09-12-2006, 01:16 PM	#8
windmill Professional STI Driver Car: 04 Subaru WRX STi Fav Mod: COBB Stage 1! Posts: 453 IWSTI Addict since: May 2003 Trader Rating: (0)	So when is the new one coming out? It sounds like a few people out there have beta units already. I'm finally going to get an AP in November or December. Would it be wise to wait a little longer for the newer version? I've had my STi for over three years now, and it's still stock, so I can wait another month or two

09-15-2006, 05:24 PM	#12
05_GD7 Spec C Club Car: 05 STi - Black Fav Mod: No Lien Location: Ontario, Canada Posts: 1,950 IWSTI Addict since: Mar 2006 Trader Rating: (2)	yeah, Cobb will come out with exciting new maps, which can be flashed using the old AP

09-15-2006, 10:13 PM	#13
0bluesti4 Senior STI Driver Car: 04 STi WRB Fav Mod: red interior lights Location: Santa Barbara, CA Posts: 312 IWSTI Addict since: Aug 2006 Trader Rating: (0)	Here is a short thread on AP 2.0 and I mean its really short! http://www.cobbforums.com/forums/showthread.php?t=31520 Here is an image from the thread above...