New Cobb Accessport!?! - Page 4

**wdb** · 08-08-2006, 07:29 AM

USB support is going to be for PC <--> AP only because the OBDII port already in the car ain't changing anytime soon -- and it's serial. That probably means that AP <--> ECU downloads/uploads will still happen at the same speed or only marginally faster.

From what I have seen and read so far the only reason to wait is to have a device that saves a copy of *your* *specific* ECU's programming, and reloads that copy when unmarrying the unit. That is the biggest difference between old and new I see so far. Another reason to wait might be for the USB capability but IMO that's not worth waiting 12 months for.

JJ18Sniper · 08-08-2006, 07:40 AM

I wouldn't be surprised if there is a long delay... Cobb products never seem to come out on the release date, or anywhere relatively close.

Stargazer · 08-08-2006, 10:46 AM

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Originally Posted by WolfPlayer

Good luck on that wait. IMHO, it will be at least 6 months ... but more like 9-12. For anyone looking for Cobb Staged Upgrades and/or ProTUNEs then this AP won't give you anything above and beyond the old one except a quicker flash time. Call Cobb and talk to them. They will basically tell you the same thing. Personally, I wouldn't wait a year just to get USB and a color screen. I would have kept mine (and not sold it) except that since I am a moderator and I referree the StreetTUNER forum, I see it as my responsibility to keep up to date on the Cobb products (yea, I'm dedicated).

t

If people read the link given in post #8, Cobb has already given the information about what the new one can and cannot do.

The new AP is not designed for people who already have one. That's why it's not appealing to people like you. It is, however, appealing to people like me who are contemplating a first purchase.

2fas4u · 08-08-2006, 10:52 AM

but thats my point really. Maybe I said it wrong? Why wait the new one is really functionally no different then the older units that are still out there. So the display is color and it looks different?

twp4ever · 08-08-2006, 11:07 AM

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Originally Posted by 2fas4u

but thats my point really. Maybe I said it wrong? Why wait the new one is really functionally no different then the older units that are still out there. So the display is color and it looks different?

agree~ just order mine last nite.. as long as they are doing the samething.. why bother to wait, right?

Stargazer · 08-08-2006, 11:15 AM

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Originally Posted by 2fas4u

but thats my point really. Maybe I said it wrong? Why wait the new one is really functionally no different then the older units that are still out there. So the display is color and it looks different?

Probably the same reason why I bought a 2006 STI instead of a 2005 Sti

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VetteVert · 08-09-2006, 04:10 AM

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Originally Posted by wdb

From what I have seen and read so far the only reason to wait is to have a device that saves a copy of *your* *specific* ECU's programming, and reloads that copy when unmarrying the unit.

Exactly what I'm waiting for. I will wait...or go the tactrix/openecu/enginuity route.

VV

**WolfPlayer** · 08-09-2006, 04:13 AM

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Originally Posted by Stargazer

If people read the link given in post #8, Cobb has already given the information about what the new one can and cannot do.

The new AP is not designed for people who already have one. That's why it's not appealing to people like you. It is, however, appealing to people like me who are contemplating a first purchase.

I read the link and have talked to those much more in the know (if you get my drift). No need to school me on the new AccessPORT - I can pretty much guarantee you that I know much more about it than almost anyone here.

t

twp4ever · 08-09-2006, 05:19 AM

performance wise.. there should not be any difference right? since they're flashing the same map..

scubadiver424 · 08-09-2006, 05:24 AM

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Originally Posted by twp4ever

performance wise.. there should not be any difference right? since they're flashing the same map..

correct! there will be no advantage to having the AP, except for looks, but its not like its in your car all the time anyhow,

still im gonna wait

Mykl · 08-09-2006, 05:54 AM

Enginuity does the same thing and it's free.

**WolfPlayer** · 08-09-2006, 08:09 AM

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Originally Posted by scubadiver424

correct! there will be no advantage to having the AP, except for looks, but its not like its in your car all the time anyhow,

still im gonna wait

The one thing that will be noticeable will be the speed increase in the flash process. The new AP will flash much quicker. Does this really matter? IMHO, no.

The other possible advantage is that the new AP will contain more memory. For those guys using StreetTUNER this **might** mean that you can now store everything in a base map instead of having to use both a base map and a realtime map.

t

Stargazer · 08-09-2006, 10:35 AM

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Originally Posted by WolfPlayer

I read the link and have talked to those much more in the know (if you get my drift). No need to school me on the new AccessPORT - I can pretty much guarantee you that I know much more about it than almost anyone here.

t

Oh, no, I'm not trying to school you. I just pointed it out because a lot of the questions people are asking are answered there. It would save you the trouble of having to repeat the information.

Then, you stated your personal reason why you wouldn't get one. I responded by giving my personal reason why I would.

***Digitalfiend*** · 08-10-2006, 03:29 PM

I'm still waiting to get my AP as I've been on the fence about power vs suspension mods. The biggest sticking point for me with AP is the fact that you lose your cars specific ECU map. Not that it is a huge deal but the USB interface is quite nice as well. The 1/4 mile timer might be fun if you want to use it to gauge performance changes and don't want to buy a g-tech or something similar.

Can you download your car's ECU info, using something like Enginuity, before flashing it with Cobb's stuff?

scubadiver424 · 08-10-2006, 03:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Digitalfiend

I'm still waiting to get my AP as I've been on the fence about power vs suspension mods. The biggest sticking point for me with AP is the fact that you lose your cars specific ECU map. Not that it is a huge deal but the USB interface is quite nice as well. The 1/4 mile timer might be fun if you want to use it to gauge performance changes and don't want to buy a g-tech or something similar.

Can you download your car's ECU info, using something like Enginuity, before flashing it with Cobb's stuff?

thats a good question, wish I knew the answer, but I am interested

08-08-2006, 07:29 AM	#46
wdb dances with roads Car: 2005 CGM STi Posts: 5,124 IWSTI Addict since: Apr 2005 Trader Rating: (8)	USB support is going to be for PC <--> AP only because the OBDII port already in the car ain't changing anytime soon -- and it's serial. That probably means that AP <--> ECU downloads/uploads will still happen at the same speed or only marginally faster. From what I have seen and read so far the only reason to wait is to have a device that saves a copy of your specific ECU's programming, and reloads that copy when unmarrying the unit. That is the biggest difference between old and new I see so far. Another reason to wait might be for the USB capability but IMO that's not worth waiting 12 months for. This ad is not endorsed by this member. Please register or login to hide this ad.

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08-08-2006, 07:40 AM	#47
JJ18Sniper Silver Member Car: 05 Subaru WRX STi Fav Mod: DB 20G, Diamond Black BBS RE's, S2K retrofit Location: NY Posts: 4,638 IWSTI Addict since: Jul 2004 Trader Rating: (7)	I wouldn't be surprised if there is a long delay... Cobb products never seem to come out on the release date, or anywhere relatively close.

08-08-2006, 10:52 AM	#49
2fas4u Silver Member Car: 05 & 09 WRB STI Location: Manchester, Maryland Posts: 2,334 IWSTI Addict since: Aug 2005 Trader Rating: (4)	but thats my point really. Maybe I said it wrong? Why wait the new one is really functionally no different then the older units that are still out there. So the display is color and it looks different?

08-09-2006, 05:19 AM	#54
twp4ever Professional STI Driver Car: 06 Blk STI Fav Mod: FP' Green Location: Bellevue WA Posts: 452 IWSTI Addict since: Mar 2006 Trader Rating: (4)	performance wise.. there should not be any difference right? since they're flashing the same map..

08-09-2006, 05:54 AM	#56
Mykl S204 Racer Car: '04.5 STi Fav Mod: Whiteline steering rack bushings Location: Montgomery, Al Posts: 3,073 IWSTI Addict since: Apr 2006 Trader Rating: (0)	Enginuity does the same thing and it's free.

08-10-2006, 03:29 PM	#59
*Digitalfiend* Super Moderator Car: 08 DGM STI Fav Mod: My wife :) Location: Brooklin, Ontario Posts: 5,690 IWSTI Addict since: Oct 2003 Trader Rating: (0)	I'm still waiting to get my AP as I've been on the fence about power vs suspension mods. The biggest sticking point for me with AP is the fact that you lose your cars specific ECU map. Not that it is a huge deal but the USB interface is quite nice as well. The 1/4 mile timer might be fun if you want to use it to gauge performance changes and don't want to buy a g-tech or something similar. Can you download your car's ECU info, using something like Enginuity, before flashing it with Cobb's stuff?