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SUBIRU · 05-04-2006, 10:14 PM

i've been switching between two maps:

california stage 1 map

california stage 1 lwg map

Peleg · 05-04-2006, 10:18 PM

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Originally Posted by beesti

i've been switching between two maps:

california stage 1 map

california stage 1 lwg map

And, how does the CA map treat u?

BTW, According to Shiv Vishnu, the best gas in CA is from Unical 76. I'm starting to stick to the 76 91 octane.

SUBIRU · 05-04-2006, 10:20 PM

california stage 1 map
-according to TARI, i peak at 17.5 PSI

california stage 1 lwg map
-i need to get better readings next time, but when i did run in the higher gears a few days ago, my friend reading the AP at the time said i was hitting 15.8s PSI

Peleg · 05-04-2006, 10:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by beesti

california stage 1 map
-according to TARI, i peak at 17.5 PSI

california stage 1 lwg map
-i need to get better readings next time, but when i did run in the higher gears a few days ago, my friend reading the AP at the time said i was hitting 15.8s PSI

I PMed one of the mods who is into ECU, hopefully he can jump in here and help us.

The Cobb graph says 16 psi..........when you hit 15.8, does the car feel strong?

SUBIRU · 05-04-2006, 10:30 PM

yea, it does feel stronger, but like i said, i need to get better readings. i'll use tari on the LWG map tomorrow or something to get more concrete numbers.

Peleg · 05-04-2006, 10:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by beesti

yea, it does feel stronger, but like i said, i need to get better readings. i'll use tari on the LWG map tomorrow or something to get more concrete numbers.

Alright.

Try giving Cobb a call and see what they suggest.

Peleg · 05-04-2006, 10:42 PM

Tell you what, now that you're becomming an expert on this, you can help me with mine.

I'll detail your car if you want.

SUBIRU · 05-04-2006, 10:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Peleg

Tell you what, now that you're becomming an expert on this, you can help me with mine.

I'll detail your car if you want.

*shakes hand* deal!

**Rac10000** · 05-04-2006, 10:47 PM

Target boost for stage 1 is 16psi + or - 0.5psi tapering to 12 by redline.
I would try the LWG map for a little more time. ~15.5 - 16 is pretty much perfect. Try it out for a few more days. It can't hurt.

http://cobbtuning.com/sti/images/ap-sti-stage1.gif

Peleg · 05-05-2006, 10:10 AM

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Originally Posted by beesti

*shakes hand* deal!

I'm going to make this bad boy look like new.

So 15.8 psi is a good target boost according to Rac, 17.5 sounded a tad high for stage 1.

I wonder what mind will be like.........

See you tomorrow at the meet.

SUBIRU · 05-05-2006, 11:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Peleg

I'm going to make this bad boy look like new.

So 15.8 psi is a good target boost according to Rac, 17.5 sounded a tad high for stage 1.

I wonder what mind will be like.........

See you tomorrow at the meet.

well, we can find out once ur AP comes in. if u need help flashing the base map, i'll come over. we can save a whole day for detailing and logging in some numbers. i got tari hooked up so we're good to go to get realtime ecu readings and data logs.

see u on sat. today i just flashed the car with a Stage 1 LWG Base Map for California Fuel. i'm going to keep that as my base map since it contains the safest stage1 values. gotta keep that engine new. =)

Peleg · 05-05-2006, 11:22 AM

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Originally Posted by beesti

well, we can find out once ur AP comes in. if u need help flashing the base map, i'll come over. we can save a whole day for detailing and logging in some numbers. i got tari hooked up so we're good to go to get realtime ecu readings and data logs.

see u on sat. today i just flashed the car with a Stage 1 LWG Base Map for California Fuel. i'm going to keep that as my base map since it contains the safest stage1 values. gotta keep that engine new. =)

That sounds good. Between 14.5 and 16 psi is 1.5 psi difference, I'm sure the engine can handle that with no problem, after all this entire engine was built to handle turbocharging. 20 psi and above is where I would start to worry about the engine, Rac1000 please correct me if I'm wrong.

**Rac10000** · 05-05-2006, 11:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Peleg

That sounds good. Between 14.5 and 16 psi is 1.5 psi difference, I'm sure the engine can handle that with no problem, after all this entire engine was built to handle turbocharging. 20 psi and above is where I would start to worry about the engine, Rac10000 please correct me if I'm wrong.

Peleg, I would agree. The motor can handle stage 2 (17-18 psi) + a ProTune (19 psi) just fine. I even think the motor itself can handle more but the stock VF39 just runs out of steam / efficiency when you push it above ~19 psi. There is nothing to worry about. Just mod and have fun.

SUBIRU · 05-05-2006, 10:04 PM

i was attempting a run today, and i couldn't break 15 PSI on a california lwg stage 1 map. i hit 14.8 peak. i got this number off of tari. what gives?!!?!?

so.. i'm kinda torn.

LWG stage 1 map gives me a peak of 14.8 psi reading from TARI.

standard stage 1 map gives me a peak of 17.3 psi reading from TARI.

so........... umm.. what to do?

i think its time to give cobb a call.

Peleg · 05-05-2006, 11:09 PM

That's weird, 14.8 is only .3 more than stock. That doesn't sound right.

Call Cobb.

05-04-2006, 10:14 PM	#46
SUBIRU Silver Member Car: 05 STi Fav Mod: fix-it tickets Location: sj, ca Posts: 876 Join Date: Oct 2005 Trader Rating: (3)	i've been switching between two maps: california stage 1 map california stage 1 lwg map This ad is not endorsed by this member. Please register or login to hide this ad.

05-04-2006, 10:47 PM	#54
Rac10000 ADMIN Car: 2005 BMW COMP ///M3 Location: Westchester, NY Posts: 28,592,024 Join Date: Jan 2004 Trader Rating: (13)	Target boost for stage 1 is 16psi + or - 0.5psi tapering to 12 by redline. I would try the LWG map for a little more time. ~15.5 - 16 is pretty much perfect. Try it out for a few more days. It can't hurt. http://cobbtuning.com/sti/images/ap-sti-stage1.gif Last edited by Rac10000 : 05-04-2006 at 11:18 PM.

05-05-2006, 11:09 PM	#60
Peleg STI Guru Car: 04 Subaru WRX STi Fav Mod: Whooshing sounds Location: Death Valley Posts: 5,898 Join Date: Nov 2003 Trader Rating: (11)	That's weird, 14.8 is only .3 more than stock. That doesn't sound right. Call Cobb. This ad is not endorsed by this member. Please register or login to hide this ad.

05-04-2006, 10:20 PM	#48
SUBIRU Silver Member Car: 05 STi Fav Mod: fix-it tickets Location: sj, ca Posts: 876 Join Date: Oct 2005 Trader Rating: (3)	california stage 1 map -according to TARI, i peak at 17.5 PSI california stage 1 lwg map -i need to get better readings next time, but when i did run in the higher gears a few days ago, my friend reading the AP at the time said i was hitting 15.8s PSI

05-04-2006, 10:30 PM	#50
SUBIRU Silver Member Car: 05 STi Fav Mod: fix-it tickets Location: sj, ca Posts: 876 Join Date: Oct 2005 Trader Rating: (3)	yea, it does feel stronger, but like i said, i need to get better readings. i'll use tari on the LWG map tomorrow or something to get more concrete numbers.

05-04-2006, 10:42 PM	#52
Peleg STI Guru Car: 04 Subaru WRX STi Fav Mod: Whooshing sounds Location: Death Valley Posts: 5,898 Join Date: Nov 2003 Trader Rating: (11)	Tell you what, now that you're becomming an expert on this, you can help me with mine. I'll detail your car if you want.

05-05-2006, 10:04 PM	#59
SUBIRU Silver Member Car: 05 STi Fav Mod: fix-it tickets Location: sj, ca Posts: 876 Join Date: Oct 2005 Trader Rating: (3)	i was attempting a run today, and i couldn't break 15 PSI on a california lwg stage 1 map. i hit 14.8 peak. i got this number off of tari. what gives?!!?!? so.. i'm kinda torn. LWG stage 1 map gives me a peak of 14.8 psi reading from TARI. standard stage 1 map gives me a peak of 17.3 psi reading from TARI. so........... umm.. what to do? i think its time to give cobb a call.