AP Stage 2 Club - Page 14

Mayhem13 · 09-04-2006, 07:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Mongoose

For me the biggest difference was partial throttle boost response and torque, the thing felt like a monster with very little throttle input compared to stock. There was definetely more power and torque at WOT but I noticed the biggest gains in the mid range, also gear changes felt a little different afterwards because of all the extra torque and the startling quickness with which the trubo spools back up. With that said, going from stage 2 to a protuned map at 19 psi almost felt like as big of a difference from stock to stage 2. The feel of the car didn't change as durastically as before but there was more power and torque everywhere under any type of boost.

humm...makes me wana get protuned now, but im holding off until i get my gt30r setup

...i think there should be a club for that too! (although i'd imagine that would b a somewhat smaller club).

BluSTi · 09-06-2006, 03:46 PM

Will be next week.

0bluesti4 · 09-09-2006, 02:22 AM

Just a thought here but perhaps people feel different about stage 2 due to their driving style? It seems you get the most gains in the lower to mid range and if you are one of those people that likes your RPMs high than you won't feel as much difference at those ranges, while those that rarely take it past 5k and tend to stick more around 3-4k will think the difference is much more noticeable.

I wonder just how safe is it to run off-the-shelf map if you follow COBB's guidelines to the letter and get only their TBE on an otherwise completely stock car? Would protune really be necessary in such a setup? I can understand the need for protune for those that use different parts and whatnot but is it really necessary if you just have COBB TBE?

Also, anyone know if Subi dealer would install TBE for me?

Any good places to get protuned around Ventura/LA area in Cali?

Thanks.

Narib · 09-09-2006, 05:32 AM

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Originally Posted by 0bluesti4

Just a thought here but perhaps people feel different about stage 2 due to their driving style? It seems you get the most gains in the lower to mid range and if you are one of those people that likes your RPMs high than you won't feel as much difference at those ranges, while those that rarely take it past 5k and tend to stick more around 3-4k will think the difference is much more noticeable.

I wonder just how safe is it to run off-the-shelf map if you follow COBB's guidelines to the letter and get only their TBE on an otherwise completely stock car? Would protune really be necessary in such a setup? I can understand the need for protune for those that use different parts and whatnot but is it really necessary if you just have COBB TBE?

Also, anyone know if Subi dealer would install TBE for me?

Any good places to get protuned around Ventura/LA area in Cali?

Thanks.

Speaking as a Subaru Tech,It is illegal to do any removal of the cats.So going from 2 cats too 1 or none would be a very large fine.

05_GD7 · 09-09-2006, 08:18 AM

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Speaking as a Subaru Tech,It is illegal to do any removal of the cats.So going from 2 cats too 1 or none would be a very large fine

Probably true for Cali...it all depends where you live.

In ontario, Canada, you are allowed to replace your cats, as long as they operate as intended.

Narib · 09-09-2006, 09:54 AM

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Originally Posted by 05_GD7

Probably true for Cali...it all depends where you live.

In ontario, Canada, you are allowed to replace your cats, as long as they operate as intended.

Yes but the majority of these Downpipe's have no Cats in them.This is making the shop possibly having a large fine.I know at my dealership if there is a rattle at the cat from exhaust shields,we cannot even remove the shield.

0bluesti4 · 09-09-2006, 07:15 PM

Dammit I hate Cali! Well I would still want to have at least one cat so that perhaps I can at least pass the sniffer if I have to while maybe running an economy map. There is a chance that visual inspection will not pass if they throw the car on the lift, but the shop would have to first know what to look for and know how many cats STi comes stock with. I have been taking my previous car to some random gas stations for smog and they never bothered to look under the car or gave me any grief for having a CAI or loud exhaust on so I am hoping the same would hold for the STi. However, that means I wont be able to find a shop to do the install for me and I rent an appartment and dont really have all the tools or place to do this. I guess I could always go stage 1 first untill I figure how to get TBE installed.

Tbagger · 09-12-2006, 07:24 AM

I'M IN I'M IN . . . . . woooop. . . . just got it all together yesterday finished. AP stage 2, now just time fr a protune.

docsSTI · 09-12-2006, 10:18 AM

Went stage 2 couple of weeks ago. Can't really say it was a huge gain, at least by the butt meter but I did get to 150 alot faster. Have an appointment with Agile next week for the protune.

0bluesti4 · 09-13-2006, 08:38 AM

Congrats to all of you going stage 2!

Can someone, please, tell me where the stock cats are located on an STi? Is it one on downpipe and one on midpipe or two on downpipe? Thanks!

kessler89 · 09-13-2006, 08:58 AM

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Originally Posted by 0bluesti4

Congrats to all of you going stage 2!

Can someone, please, tell me where the stock cats are located on an STi? Is it one on downpipe and one on midpipe or two on downpipe? Thanks!

2 cats in the DP, one silencer in the midpipe

karr1008 · 09-13-2006, 04:09 PM

Quick question: What are the 0-60 mph and quarter miles numbers with COBB Stage2?

Thanks.

silver arrow · 09-13-2006, 04:57 PM

My neighbor and I both have 05 STi's. He was stage 2 with an intake. I had just TBE. My car would run dead even. He was recently Protuned. Mildly faster in 1-2, starts to pull away in 3-4, walks away in 5-6. Tuner said the K&N was killing his tq when running OTS stg 2.

0bluesti4 · 09-14-2006, 09:54 PM

I have been serioulsy thinking about going stage 2, but then I saw this and it made me think twice...now I'm just not sure...

California Crackdown on Modified Cars
$5 million in federal money will fund a Sacramento, California effort to stop drivers in modified cars.

Police in Sacramento, California announced Wednesday that they would use $5 million in federal money to begin cracking down on auto enthusiasts who modify their vehicles. The money will be used to form an undercover "Drag-Net" unit to stop motorists who appear to be driving modified cars.

The concept, which originated in San Diego in 2001, has been spreading throughout California generating significant revenue for the state and local departments. In Santa Fe Springs, for example, twelve officers on Drag-Net duty issued 300 citations and impounded 50 vehicles in just one weekend. Several cities have drag-racing ordinances that allow police to auction off seized cars and keep the profits.

Under Drag-Net, San Diego officers come to train other departments how to look out for what they believe to be tell-tale signs of illegal modification such as window tinting, large spoilers, extra gauges or racing stickers. Police say this gives them probable cause to stop and inspect a vehicle and its engine compartment.

In practice, "excessive exhaust noise" tickets are the most common violation. California law does not require police to measure sound levels objectively. Instead, according to the California Highway Patrol, the "citation is based on officer's judgment."

Drivers of stock vehicles that come from the factory with some of the characteristics of modified cars have experienced harassment under this provision. One such motorist complained on an enthusiast website that the California Highway Patrol was using these programs to make "driving while Asian" a crime, pointing out that the department's own website has several pages dedicated to Asian involvement in street racing and "vehicle modification."

Those receiving a vehicle modification "fix-it" ticket must visit a California Bureau of Automobile Repair office and pay a $35 fee to have their car inspected. If the car fails, a judge can impose another fine of up to $2000 for failing to meet California emissions requirements.

Related Reports: Red light camera study roundup

Article Excerpt:

"We're looking to make a heavy impact on speeding and street racing in this area," Sacramento Police Deputy Chief Steve Segura said during a press conference with local and state officials on Del Paso Road in North Natomas.

Source: Area law enforcers to receive training to combat street racing (Sacramento Bee, 8/4/2005)

Chris05STi · 09-14-2006, 10:01 PM

Since when was gauges a bad "illegal" thing? Screw them! Get some FOP plates or move outta there...this is some bs!!

09-14-2006, 09:54 PM	#209
0bluesti4 Senior STI Driver Car: 04 STi WRB Fav Mod: red interior lights Location: Santa Barbara, CA Posts: 312 Join Date: Aug 2006 Trader Rating: (0)	California sux! I have been serioulsy thinking about going stage 2, but then I saw this and it made me think twice...now I'm just not sure... California Crackdown on Modified Cars $5 million in federal money will fund a Sacramento, California effort to stop drivers in modified cars. Police in Sacramento, California announced Wednesday that they would use $5 million in federal money to begin cracking down on auto enthusiasts who modify their vehicles. The money will be used to form an undercover "Drag-Net" unit to stop motorists who appear to be driving modified cars. The concept, which originated in San Diego in 2001, has been spreading throughout California generating significant revenue for the state and local departments. In Santa Fe Springs, for example, twelve officers on Drag-Net duty issued 300 citations and impounded 50 vehicles in just one weekend. Several cities have drag-racing ordinances that allow police to auction off seized cars and keep the profits. Under Drag-Net, San Diego officers come to train other departments how to look out for what they believe to be tell-tale signs of illegal modification such as window tinting, large spoilers, extra gauges or racing stickers. Police say this gives them probable cause to stop and inspect a vehicle and its engine compartment. In practice, "excessive exhaust noise" tickets are the most common violation. California law does not require police to measure sound levels objectively. Instead, according to the California Highway Patrol, the "citation is based on officer's judgment." Drivers of stock vehicles that come from the factory with some of the characteristics of modified cars have experienced harassment under this provision. One such motorist complained on an enthusiast website that the California Highway Patrol was using these programs to make "driving while Asian" a crime, pointing out that the department's own website has several pages dedicated to Asian involvement in street racing and "vehicle modification." Those receiving a vehicle modification "fix-it" ticket must visit a California Bureau of Automobile Repair office and pay a $35 fee to have their car inspected. If the car fails, a judge can impose another fine of up to $2000 for failing to meet California emissions requirements. Related Reports: Red light camera study roundup Article Excerpt: "We're looking to make a heavy impact on speeding and street racing in this area," Sacramento Police Deputy Chief Steve Segura said during a press conference with local and state officials on Del Paso Road in North Natomas. Source: Area law enforcers to receive training to combat street racing (Sacramento Bee, 8/4/2005)

09-14-2006, 10:01 PM	#210
Chris05STi I Has a Turbo Timer Car: 2005 Subaru WRX STi Fav Mod: Every single one! Location: NJ Posts: 9,342 Join Date: Jun 2005 Trader Rating: (23)	Since when was gauges a bad "illegal" thing? Screw them! Get some FOP plates or move outta there...this is some bs!! This ad is not endorsed by this member. Please register or login to hide this ad.

09-06-2006, 03:46 PM	#197
BluSTi IWSTI Club Level 1 Car: 04 WRB STi Fav Mod: Me! Location: Montana Posts: 13,509 Join Date: Mar 2005 Trader Rating: (0)	Will be next week.

09-09-2006, 02:22 AM	#198
0bluesti4 Senior STI Driver Car: 04 STi WRB Fav Mod: red interior lights Location: Santa Barbara, CA Posts: 312 Join Date: Aug 2006 Trader Rating: (0)	Just a thought here but perhaps people feel different about stage 2 due to their driving style? It seems you get the most gains in the lower to mid range and if you are one of those people that likes your RPMs high than you won't feel as much difference at those ranges, while those that rarely take it past 5k and tend to stick more around 3-4k will think the difference is much more noticeable. I wonder just how safe is it to run off-the-shelf map if you follow COBB's guidelines to the letter and get only their TBE on an otherwise completely stock car? Would protune really be necessary in such a setup? I can understand the need for protune for those that use different parts and whatnot but is it really necessary if you just have COBB TBE? Also, anyone know if Subi dealer would install TBE for me? Any good places to get protuned around Ventura/LA area in Cali? Thanks.

09-09-2006, 07:15 PM	#202
0bluesti4 Senior STI Driver Car: 04 STi WRB Fav Mod: red interior lights Location: Santa Barbara, CA Posts: 312 Join Date: Aug 2006 Trader Rating: (0)	Dammit I hate Cali! Well I would still want to have at least one cat so that perhaps I can at least pass the sniffer if I have to while maybe running an economy map. There is a chance that visual inspection will not pass if they throw the car on the lift, but the shop would have to first know what to look for and know how many cats STi comes stock with. I have been taking my previous car to some random gas stations for smog and they never bothered to look under the car or gave me any grief for having a CAI or loud exhaust on so I am hoping the same would hold for the STi. However, that means I wont be able to find a shop to do the install for me and I rent an appartment and dont really have all the tools or place to do this. I guess I could always go stage 1 first untill I figure how to get TBE installed.

09-12-2006, 07:24 AM	#203
Tbagger Spec C Club Car: 06 STi WRB Location: MASS-HOLE Posts: 1,707 Join Date: Aug 2006 Trader Rating: (1)	I'M IN I'M IN . . . . . woooop. . . . just got it all together yesterday finished. AP stage 2, now just time fr a protune.

09-12-2006, 10:18 AM	#204
docsSTI Junior STI Driver Car: 06 OBP STi Fav Mod: Agile Protune Location: Philly PA Posts: 109 Join Date: Feb 2006 Trader Rating: (8)	Went stage 2 couple of weeks ago. Can't really say it was a huge gain, at least by the butt meter but I did get to 150 alot faster. Have an appointment with Agile next week for the protune.

09-13-2006, 08:38 AM	#205
0bluesti4 Senior STI Driver Car: 04 STi WRB Fav Mod: red interior lights Location: Santa Barbara, CA Posts: 312 Join Date: Aug 2006 Trader Rating: (0)	Congrats to all of you going stage 2! Can someone, please, tell me where the stock cats are located on an STi? Is it one on downpipe and one on midpipe or two on downpipe? Thanks!

09-13-2006, 04:09 PM	#207
karr1008 The Next Petter Solberg Car: 06 WRB STI Fav Mod: STG2+/Swaybars/RCE blacks coming soon Location: STI endangered species la Posts: 910 Join Date: Jul 2006 Trader Rating: (2)	Quick question: What are the 0-60 mph and quarter miles numbers with COBB Stage2? Thanks.

09-13-2006, 04:57 PM	#208
silver arrow Professional STI Racer Car: 05 STi PSM Fav Mod: Scooby Sport DP Posts: 729 Join Date: Sep 2005 Trader Rating: (0)	My neighbor and I both have 05 STi's. He was stage 2 with an intake. I had just TBE. My car would run dead even. He was recently Protuned. Mildly faster in 1-2, starts to pull away in 3-4, walks away in 5-6. Tuner said the K&N was killing his tq when running OTS stg 2.