Is it absolute that I need an engine management?

Thanathos · 05-03-2008, 06:49 AM

Is it absolute that I need an engine management before I mod my Subaru, (08 STi). I was thinking of getting a downpipe but just wanted to know if I wont be able to without the engine management.

-Noob Thanathos

KiTsuNe · 05-03-2008, 06:55 AM

one word

yes

LSE · 05-03-2008, 07:46 AM

haha. only if you like your car. If you are sweating the price then don't mod your car man. It is only going to cost you more if you go cheap. That's the #1 rule of moding.

Thanathos · 05-03-2008, 07:49 AM

Not sweating the price just wondering, knowledge is power. Because I have seen some suby I know modded without engine management is all. I am slowly growing in understanding how to mod Subys and after all this is what this site is for no?

LSE · 05-03-2008, 11:20 AM

cool. There are very little engine related modifications that you can get away without EM on the sti platform. You have the 08 so there is relatively few things out there yet for it and even less experience on what's works and doesn't. So I'd be extra-carefull and do a lot of research before taking chances.

an access port or ecutec should be the first thing on your list. normally people start with a full turbo back + EM.

enjoy your new ride.

rjacobs · 05-03-2008, 11:47 AM

Can you do it, yes. Is it safe, no. Another factor is like this, you put a downpipe in, it gives you 10 HP by itself. You get EM and tune for it, +50 HP.

DREWSTI04 · 05-03-2008, 12:02 PM

get an ap man. i love my stage 2 plus goodies

Thanathos · 05-04-2008, 05:17 AM

Thanks guys I was also interested in asking what is the difference between the EM like accessport and utec with just reflashing the ECU. Is reflashing safe?

**04STiguy79** · 05-04-2008, 06:01 AM

Go with the COBB V2, it is much more user friendly and can easily be tuned by any tuner with the street tuner software. Then pop yourself a turbo back exhaust on that puppy and have her tuned.

WRX4ME LE 482 · 05-04-2008, 03:25 PM

If you would like to learn tuning, you could go opensource, and slowly build up your knowledge. If you dont want to or dont have the time, the Cobb AP is the way to go. In fact, get it first. Stage 1 Cobb can be flashed with no hardware mods at all, and if 08s are anything like 07s, itll make a huge difference in feel. Then when you get a DP, just flash Cobb Stage 2 and that's all youll need.

05-03-2008, 06:55 AM	#2
KiTsuNe Spec C Club Car: The Vroom-mobile Fav Mod: JDM Gears Location: San Jose, California Posts: 2,334 Join Date: Jun 2005 Trader Rating: (1)	Re: Is it absolute that I need an engine management? one word yes

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LSE Professional STI Racer Car: 06 STI WRB Fav Mod: Defi Gauges Location: Bethlehem PA Posts: 849 Join Date: Dec 2004 Trader Rating: (0)	Re: Is it absolute that I need an engine management? haha. only if you like your car. If you are sweating the price then don't mod your car man. It is only going to cost you more if you go cheap. That's the #1 rule of moding.

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Thanathos Amateur STI Driver Fav Mod: Coming Soon Posts: 11 Join Date: Apr 2008 Trader Rating: (0)	Re: Is it absolute that I need an engine management? Not sweating the price just wondering, knowledge is power. Because I have seen some suby I know modded without engine management is all. I am slowly growing in understanding how to mod Subys and after all this is what this site is for no? Last edited by Thanathos : 05-03-2008 at 08:04 AM.

05-03-2008, 11:20 AM	#5
LSE Professional STI Racer Car: 06 STI WRB Fav Mod: Defi Gauges Location: Bethlehem PA Posts: 849 Join Date: Dec 2004 Trader Rating: (0)	Re: Is it absolute that I need an engine management? cool. There are very little engine related modifications that you can get away without EM on the sti platform. You have the 08 so there is relatively few things out there yet for it and even less experience on what's works and doesn't. So I'd be extra-carefull and do a lot of research before taking chances. an access port or ecutec should be the first thing on your list. normally people start with a full turbo back + EM. enjoy your new ride.

05-03-2008, 11:47 AM	#6
rjacobs Professional STI Driver Car: 08 White STI Location: Austin, TX Posts: 432 Join Date: Sep 2006 Trader Rating: (0)	Re: Is it absolute that I need an engine management? Can you do it, yes. Is it safe, no. Another factor is like this, you put a downpipe in, it gives you 10 HP by itself. You get EM and tune for it, +50 HP.

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Thanathos Amateur STI Driver Fav Mod: Coming Soon Posts: 11 Join Date: Apr 2008 Trader Rating: (0)	Is it absolute that I need an engine management? Is it absolute that I need an engine management before I mod my Subaru, (08 STi). I was thinking of getting a downpipe but just wanted to know if I wont be able to without the engine management. -Noob Thanathos This ad is not endorsed by this member. Please register or login to hide this ad.

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DREWSTI04 Junior STI Driver Car: 2004 sti Posts: 158 Join Date: Jan 2006 Trader Rating: (0)	Re: Is it absolute that I need an engine management? get an ap man. i love my stage 2 plus goodies

05-04-2008, 05:17 AM	#8
Thanathos Amateur STI Driver Fav Mod: Coming Soon Posts: 11 Join Date: Apr 2008 Trader Rating: (0)	Re: Is it absolute that I need an engine management? Thanks guys I was also interested in asking what is the difference between the EM like accessport and utec with just reflashing the ECU. Is reflashing safe?

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04STiguy79 Gold Member Car: 04 Platnm Silvr STi Fav Mod: GT35R 450+WHP Pump No Meth Location: MD,BASC Club,Team Agile Posts: 814 Join Date: May 2007 Trader Rating: (4)	Re: Is it absolute that I need an engine management? Go with the COBB V2, it is much more user friendly and can easily be tuned by any tuner with the street tuner software. Then pop yourself a turbo back exhaust on that puppy and have her tuned.

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WRX4ME LE 482 Spec C Club Car: '07 STi Limited #482 Fav Mod: Disabled seatbelt dinger Location: Mississippi Posts: 1,158 Join Date: Mar 2007 Trader Rating: (0)	Re: Is it absolute that I need an engine management? If you would like to learn tuning, you could go opensource, and slowly build up your knowledge. If you dont want to or dont have the time, the Cobb AP is the way to go. In fact, get it first. Stage 1 Cobb can be flashed with no hardware mods at all, and if 08s are anything like 07s, itll make a huge difference in feel. Then when you get a DP, just flash Cobb Stage 2 and that's all youll need. This ad is not endorsed by this member. Please register or login to hide this ad.