How do you Rev match? - Page 4

***Wes*** · 12-04-2006, 07:10 PM

lower gear smoother

***amg destroyer*** · 12-04-2006, 09:25 PM

I highly recommend Bob Bondurant's High Performance Driving Book (the newest edition). I learned a lot from it, and it cleared up a lot of unclear things related to this topic.

Huy · 12-05-2006, 03:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CruisinSTI

is rev match supposed to help u slow down or is it just to get into a lower gear smoother?

That's engine braking (dropping gears to slow the car).
I wouldn't recommend it!

haasSTI · 12-05-2006, 09:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Huy

That's engine braking (dropping gears to slow the car).
I wouldn't recommend it!

What the hell? Actually, down-shifting is probably the best way to slow down your car, especially if you are going down a hill, for example. It's much better to let the engine do the braking (does no harm to the engine), than wearing on your brakes all the time.

If you read the owners manual, it even mentions that you should leave the engine IN GEAR when slowing down to help the car slow down. They do NOT recommend clutching out and stopping the whole car with just the brakes.

lokutus1 · 12-06-2006, 05:32 AM

i think huy is trying to say that one shouldn't use the engine alone to brake. if you're already in the proper gear, you shouldn't downshift to slow down in lieu of the brakes. it puts stress on the engine. brake pads are fairly cheap and easy to replace when compared to engine components. the main purpose of downshifting is to make sure you're in the proper gear/powerband to accelerate after you slow down.

osbjmg · 12-06-2006, 08:46 AM

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Originally Posted by rgt

I have big feet so i can brake with my toe and the ball of the front part of my foot

My feet are size 11, but I find my skate shoes are the perfect width for left and right side of my foot heel-toe'ing.

Running shoes actually make my car feel faster because they are lighter, but they are too wide up front, I mess up and accidentally hit the brakes a lot when double clutching.

My CAT casual dress type boot heel (if that makes any sense) makes my foot hit the top of the panel under there and is no good.

osbjmg · 12-06-2006, 08:47 AM

I think it would be cool to get a tach on your transmission to watch how they match

RCane · 12-06-2006, 01:56 PM

Shoes do make a BIG difference. Check out http://www.piloti.com. You can order them online.

BluSTi · 12-06-2006, 06:01 PM

A great heel/toe downshift is one step closer to nirvana.

flatthump · 12-06-2006, 06:04 PM

Rev matching is nothing but a myth.....it doesnt exist.

***amg destroyer*** · 12-06-2006, 06:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RCane

Shoes do make a BIG difference. Check out http://www.piloti.com. You can order them online.

Agreed. I just got some Piloti G16s, and simply put, the difference between normal shoes and these is amazing.

Huy · 12-07-2006, 02:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by haasSTI

What the hell? Actually, down-shifting is probably the best way to slow down your car, especially if you are going down a hill, for example. It's much better to let the engine do the braking (does no harm to the engine), than wearing on your brakes all the time.

If you read the owners manual, it even mentions that you should leave the engine IN GEAR when slowing down to help the car slow down. They do NOT recommend clutching out and stopping the whole car with just the brakes.

You serious? You would rather use the engine to slow down the car? I don't know about you, but i'd rather put stress on my pads and tyres rather than the motor.

If i'm braking, i'm always in an appropiate gear. I never coast in neutral, ever. You don't have control of the car if you're in neutral. Duh!

nonissan · 12-27-2006, 12:01 PM

so, correct me if i'm wrong (i'm sure i am), but aren't they all the same?

heel toe is just a technique used when revmatching on a downshift and 'double clutching' is used to revmatch a drop of more than one gear (and if not, why the extra step of releasing the clutch in neutral only to immediately reengage? isn't it bad to be in neutral around a corner?)?

flatthump · 12-27-2006, 12:45 PM

^^read the whole thread....

nonissan · 12-27-2006, 01:15 PM

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Originally Posted by flatthump

^^read the whole thread....

i did. i also read the link to heel-toeing. and my question remains. i am sure of what rev-matching is. from the heel-toe link, i am pretty sure that it is a technique for rev-matching... the double clutching i am still unsure of. which is why i asked the question: 'double clutching' is used to revmatch a drop of more than one gear (and if not, why the extra step of releasing the clutch in neutral only to immediately reengage? isn't it bad to be in neutral around a corner?)?

12-04-2006, 07:10 PM	#46
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12-06-2006, 01:56 PM	#53
RCane Junior STI Driver Car: 07 Grey Ltd Fav Mod: Built in Passport SRX Location: Orange, CA Posts: 93 IWSTI Addict since: Mar 2005 Trader Rating: (0)	Shoes (for toe-heel, etc) Shoes do make a BIG difference. Check out http://www.piloti.com. You can order them online.

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12-04-2006, 09:25 PM	#47
*amg destroyer* Iron Fisted Car: '05 STi Fav Mod: Sparco seat Location: OC Posts: 4,463 IWSTI Addict since: Sep 2006 Trader Rating: (4)	I highly recommend Bob Bondurant's High Performance Driving Book (the newest edition). I learned a lot from it, and it cleared up a lot of unclear things related to this topic.

12-06-2006, 05:32 AM	#50
lokutus1 Spec C Club Car: 05 WRB WRX STi Fav Mod: FYI, I'm a dude Location: Burlington, MA Posts: 2,369 IWSTI Addict since: Mar 2005 Trader Rating: (10)	i think huy is trying to say that one shouldn't use the engine alone to brake. if you're already in the proper gear, you shouldn't downshift to slow down in lieu of the brakes. it puts stress on the engine. brake pads are fairly cheap and easy to replace when compared to engine components. the main purpose of downshifting is to make sure you're in the proper gear/powerband to accelerate after you slow down.

12-06-2006, 08:47 AM	#52
osbjmg Professional STI Driver Car: 06 CGM STi Fav Mod: brake dust generators Location: Durham, NC Posts: 422 IWSTI Addict since: Jan 2006 Trader Rating: (0)	I think it would be cool to get a tach on your transmission to watch how they match

12-06-2006, 06:01 PM	#54
BluSTi IWSTI Club Level 1 Car: 04 WRB STi Fav Mod: Me! Location: Montana Posts: 13,571 IWSTI Addict since: Mar 2005 Trader Rating: (0)	A great heel/toe downshift is one step closer to nirvana.

12-06-2006, 06:04 PM	#55
flatthump IWSTI Club Level 1 Car: The Spaze Mobile Fav Mod: Tuning Location: South O.C., Ca Posts: 13,348 IWSTI Addict since: Jan 2006 Trader Rating: (5)	Rev matching is nothing but a myth.....it doesnt exist.

12-27-2006, 12:01 PM	#58
nonissan Spec C Club Car: '06 steel grey, son. Fav Mod: learning how to drive stock first Posts: 997 IWSTI Addict since: Nov 2006 Trader Rating: (1)	so, correct me if i'm wrong (i'm sure i am), but aren't they all the same? heel toe is just a technique used when revmatching on a downshift and 'double clutching' is used to revmatch a drop of more than one gear (and if not, why the extra step of releasing the clutch in neutral only to immediately reengage? isn't it bad to be in neutral around a corner?)?

12-27-2006, 12:45 PM	#59
flatthump IWSTI Club Level 1 Car: The Spaze Mobile Fav Mod: Tuning Location: South O.C., Ca Posts: 13,348 IWSTI Addict since: Jan 2006 Trader Rating: (5)	^^read the whole thread....