[wrb07sti]

Originally Posted by page2334

61K of FFS here

I belive it, with good driver skills the tranny/clutch will last well over 100K. Most of these forums guys suck at driving thats why they are breaking **** FFS.

[10tenths]

Originally Posted by page2334

61K of FFS here

And this folks is why we don't buy used STi's...... Can't imagine why 5 sets of motor mounts broke......

[nbavf6]

Ok, apparently I'm not to familiar with that Flat Foot Shifting is. Someone like to explain what the heck flat foot shifting is?

[page2334]

Originally Posted by nbavf6

Ok, apparently I'm not to familiar with that Flat Foot Shifting is. Someone like to explain what the heck flat foot shifting is?

shifting while the gas stays FLAT on the floor

you got to be quick so it doesnt hit the rev limiter and bog down

[spikbeatz]

Yeah, I don't believe I'm good enough to FFS. I'll stick with my "style" until I turn her into a race only STi, then I'll get a dog box.

Which in an STi, from the video's I've seen. WOW.

[rabbisti397]

I wouldn't be doing no lift without the program. That is pretty abusive.

[jays05]

Flat-foot-shift without a 2-step rev limiter (like cobb ap, open source, utec, etc) and eventually you will be greeted with a nice grind. It feels like you aren't causing any damage, until you can't do it anymore. I know because I now have damaged/worn syncros in both 2nd gear and 5th gear.

[ec2k1gt]

I used the cobb map to get the hang of ffs after i had it down i got rid of it.

Once you get it down pat i dont see how this could possibly be anymore abusive to the transmission then when not using the ffs map.

[Mykl]

ec2k1gt, if you're using FFS to go faster then it's always going to be hard on something. Even if the software keeps the RPM's down, there's still the matter of ripping the shifter through the gears at syncro killing speeds.

If you're not yanking the shifter around like a joystick I just don't see how it's any faster than doing a regular shift.

For the record I don't do this with my car. I learned about syncros while driving my older, cheaper cars. The gearbox in this car is far too expensive to beat on like that, so I finesse my way through the gears and let the syncros do their job rather than force it. With the right touch you can shift almost as fast and do no damage.

[bluedemon_II]

Originally Posted by wrb07sti

My 07 dosent have any of the problems most people experience like bucking, hesitation, ect.. And its not tuned, I bought it right off the showroom floor. I have done 12.9, all stock, only powershifting 1-4th. The 07's don't like to cruise at a steedy rmp, you have to keep the rpms moving, thats where everyone has problems with the map.

Omg I lol at you so hard

You just made my day. So the ecu is not happy at a steady rpm? Is this your first subaru? or performance car for that matter? Really go reed up on the known issues with your year, its not a "ecu being mad at steady rpm"

Back to topic, FFS hard on engine components as it is to trans components. Just shift like normal ppl would do it, which is the same way race drivers do it, jsut a little more faster

[limpingsnail]

Originally Posted by nbavf6

Ok, apparently I'm not to familiar with that Flat Foot Shifting is. Someone like to explain what the heck flat foot shifting is?

everybody else on earth calls it power shifting

not sure why the sti guys decided to call it FFS or "flat foot shifting"

its power shifting, foot stays burried in the floor while you shift, also some people call it no lift shift

[tyler_sti]

FFS is more technical description. I posibly think cobb could have created that term. But I think its way more informitive than "power shifting".

[page2334]

sorry but power shifting is shifting without using the clutch, only tool mustang drivers power shift

[TuffStuff]

I blip the throttle a little when im racing inbetween shifts sometimes but i dont thinks i have ever ffs on my 07....thats just crazy with the stock tune.

[C.J.]

Originally Posted by AllWheelDriven

what you should do is hook up something that shows what your ECU is doing during your FFS.

Mine shows the motor being retarded and losing power for a little bit when I do it.

I have noticed this too, the ECU pulls timing like a champ.