"super-bee"

subysti5486 · 02-23-2008, 10:23 AM

whats up guys? an old guy at my work just bought himself a charger hemi srt-8 super bee and hes been bragging about it to everyone that its 425bhp and its pretty nice but it got me thinking what would happen if i invited him to the dragstrip. a stock 05 STi vs stock super-bee. i think it would be a close race and depend alot on the drivers, whatcha think? i would love to show him the power a flat-4 can have

sujak · 02-23-2008, 10:25 AM

superbee, IMO. but that wont say the STi will look slow, afterall it has half the engine

ChrisM623 · 02-23-2008, 10:35 AM

He will own you in the top end...and probably the race.

It's an auto right?

Maybe...if you launch the hell outta it....but thats a big maybe.

ACHAHockey · 02-23-2008, 10:39 AM

0-60 in low 5's, 0-100 in "under 17 seconds", 1/4 mile in 13.7 @ 106, please.

Lurker · 02-23-2008, 10:43 AM

You'll win.

wrxnext · 02-23-2008, 10:43 AM

My fathers friend let me drive his 300-c srt-8 which is more or less the same thing ( maybe a tad bit heavier ) and it did not impress me. I stomped it at 60 and it felt quick, but the acceleration from there on to 140 was slower than the sti. Still, nice huge car, kinda liked it.

I bet you can take him if your a good driver and just pull off a sweet launch. The STi's awd launch will be able to get your car moving faster than that fat american rig. I really think once he's behind you, he wont catch up. Never let him get ahead lol

And if he beats you, oh well ...He's just trying to re-live his childhood

BTW I used to have a "Rumble Bee" truck that would run a low to mid 14 second quarter mile times with good launges ( 14.2-14.4 ). That had the 5.7 hemi, srt-8 6.1 cam, longtube headers, superchips programmer, vararam hemi under glass ram air intake ( thats long lol ) and a lowering kit. Those rams were too fat to be fast ... I like my sti's acceleration much better

subysti5486 · 02-23-2008, 10:48 AM

well im going stage 2 real soon so i think that would fix the race in my favor

USNSTI · 02-23-2008, 11:17 AM

at people saying super bee will win. Sti all the way. Those things weigh as much as an sti pulling a race bike on a trailer with four people on board.... Get a good launch and hes yours. If you suck at launching he might have a chance I guess

mckman · 02-23-2008, 11:24 AM

If you are stage 2 you should have no problems. Tricky thing is the launch, his auto will probably be more consistent then I would be. This Edmunds article has some performance numbers on the super bee that are pretty interesting. In short, the bee is a lot slower then it's specs suggest, or they tested an extremely poor example.

2008 Pontiac G8 GT Full Test

Although the article is for the 2008 GT, they do a bunch of drag strip launches against the super bee.

Phame · 02-23-2008, 11:31 AM

If he mashes the gas off the line, that 425 hp or 400 tq are gonna send those rear wheels spinnin, and when that happens, launch and go.

Iguana · 02-23-2008, 01:16 PM

He'll run consistent quarter miles with his 6 speed auto. I think that should be good for high 13s.

Assuming you are still stock, STIs can get as low as low 13s. But that's if you launch correctly. If you botch it, you'll loose the race. So really, like most manual versus automatic races, it'll depend on your skill. That's one of the points of driving manual right? I mean, his grandmotehr could substitute him in this race and pull the exact same time as he could.

If you go Stage II, then its different.

TAPOUT · 02-23-2008, 05:03 PM

Uh....The SRT-8 versions run 12.8-13.0 1/4 mile times. Stage 2 should win but is still a drivers race in his favor (auto for consistency). You have to nail the launch and hope he flies past you after the stripe at the end. He will wax you on the highway. You have the advantage from the start, but he will be reeling you back in.

STIVendetta · 02-23-2008, 07:20 PM

Depends on what one wants to race to.....100 or 140+...."Go" with the Lesser~ with a "great Lanuch".

VtecSTI · 02-23-2008, 07:30 PM

You better have a perfect launch even for a stage 2 car. I would put my money on him even with you stage 2 protuned. 106mph having shifting to 5th gear in the 1/4 mile is extremely difficult to obtain

ablair544 · 02-24-2008, 01:10 PM

sti will get him(assuming driving and launch are efficient) the first time i went to the track i raced one and with a 1.76 60 foot and decent shifting i got him he went 13.5 or something like that i went 13.4 (i was stock). He didnt seem to have a good launch but i mean its not like he can misshift or anything so im goin with the sti if the driver is good

02-23-2008, 10:23 AM	#1
subysti5486 Junior STI Driver Car: wrb 05 sti Fav Mod: stage II, trunk monkey Location: tulsa, ok Posts: 105 Join Date: Nov 2007 Trader Rating: (0)	"super-bee" whats up guys? an old guy at my work just bought himself a charger hemi srt-8 super bee and hes been bragging about it to everyone that its 425bhp and its pretty nice but it got me thinking what would happen if i invited him to the dragstrip. a stock 05 STi vs stock super-bee. i think it would be a close race and depend alot on the drivers, whatcha think? i would love to show him the power a flat-4 can have This ad is not endorsed by this member. Please register or login to hide this ad.

02-23-2008, 10:25 AM	#2
sujak Professional STI Racer Car: 05' AW WRX STi Fav Mod: Passport 8500 X50 Location: Illinois Posts: 667 Join Date: Jun 2007 Trader Rating: (1)	Re: "super-bee" superbee, IMO. but that wont say the STi will look slow, afterall it has half the engine

02-23-2008, 10:35 AM	#3
ChrisM623 Junior STI Driver Car: 2006 STI Fav Mod: Perrin Catback Location: Chicago IL Posts: 128 Join Date: Nov 2006 Trader Rating: (0)	Re: "super-bee" He will own you in the top end...and probably the race. It's an auto right? Maybe...if you launch the hell outta it....but thats a big maybe.

02-23-2008, 10:39 AM	#4
ACHAHockey Spec C Club Car: Bugeye, '95 Porsche Fav Mod: Flat 6 Location: Buffalo, NY Posts: 1,812 Join Date: Jun 2006 Trader Rating: (3)	Re: "super-bee" 0-60 in low 5's, 0-100 in "under 17 seconds", 1/4 mile in 13.7 @ 106, please. Last edited by ACHAHockey : 02-23-2008 at 10:42 AM.

02-23-2008, 10:43 AM	#5
Lurker Professional STI Driver Car: 07 STI UGM Fav Mod: Boob jobs Location: San D'ego Posts: 443 Join Date: Mar 2007 Trader Rating: (6)	Re: "super-bee" You'll win.

02-23-2008, 10:43 AM	#6
wrxnext Junior STI Driver Car: RIP 04 STi Location: Austin, Texas Posts: 90 Join Date: Aug 2007 Trader Rating: (0)	Re: "super-bee" My fathers friend let me drive his 300-c srt-8 which is more or less the same thing ( maybe a tad bit heavier ) and it did not impress me. I stomped it at 60 and it felt quick, but the acceleration from there on to 140 was slower than the sti. Still, nice huge car, kinda liked it. I bet you can take him if your a good driver and just pull off a sweet launch. The STi's awd launch will be able to get your car moving faster than that fat american rig. I really think once he's behind you, he wont catch up. Never let him get ahead lol And if he beats you, oh well ...He's just trying to re-live his childhood BTW I used to have a "Rumble Bee" truck that would run a low to mid 14 second quarter mile times with good launges ( 14.2-14.4 ). That had the 5.7 hemi, srt-8 6.1 cam, longtube headers, superchips programmer, vararam hemi under glass ram air intake ( thats long lol ) and a lowering kit. Those rams were too fat to be fast ... I like my sti's acceleration much better Last edited by wrxnext : 02-23-2008 at 10:44 AM. Reason: btw

02-23-2008, 10:48 AM	#7
subysti5486 Junior STI Driver Car: wrb 05 sti Fav Mod: stage II, trunk monkey Location: tulsa, ok Posts: 105 Join Date: Nov 2007 Trader Rating: (0)	Re: "super-bee" well im going stage 2 real soon so i think that would fix the race in my favor

02-23-2008, 11:17 AM	#8
USNSTI Silver Member Car: OBP 07 STI Fav Mod: Ring-Shaped Reinforcement Frame Location: San Diego Posts: 1,276 Join Date: Dec 2006 Trader Rating: (6)	Re: "super-bee" at people saying super bee will win. Sti all the way. Those things weigh as much as an sti pulling a race bike on a trailer with four people on board.... Get a good launch and hes yours. If you suck at launching he might have a chance I guess

02-23-2008, 11:24 AM	#9
mckman Junior STI Driver Car: UGM 2007 STi Limit Fav Mod: Accessport Location: Studio City, CA Posts: 64 Join Date: Nov 2007 Trader Rating: (0)	Re: "super-bee" If you are stage 2 you should have no problems. Tricky thing is the launch, his auto will probably be more consistent then I would be. This Edmunds article has some performance numbers on the super bee that are pretty interesting. In short, the bee is a lot slower then it's specs suggest, or they tested an extremely poor example. 2008 Pontiac G8 GT Full Test Although the article is for the 2008 GT, they do a bunch of drag strip launches against the super bee.

02-23-2008, 11:31 AM	#10
Phame Professional STI Driver Car: 05 WRX (STi Clone) Fav Mod: JDM Fogs Location: NY Posts: 407 Join Date: Sep 2006 Trader Rating: (1)	Re: "super-bee" If he mashes the gas off the line, that 425 hp or 400 tq are gonna send those rear wheels spinnin, and when that happens, launch and go.

02-23-2008, 01:16 PM	#11
Iguana Spec C Club Car: 06 Aspen White STI Fav Mod: Defi's Location: Northern California Posts: 1,384 Join Date: Apr 2006 Trader Rating: (0)	Re: "super-bee" He'll run consistent quarter miles with his 6 speed auto. I think that should be good for high 13s. Assuming you are still stock, STIs can get as low as low 13s. But that's if you launch correctly. If you botch it, you'll loose the race. So really, like most manual versus automatic races, it'll depend on your skill. That's one of the points of driving manual right? I mean, his grandmotehr could substitute him in this race and pull the exact same time as he could. If you go Stage II, then its different.

02-23-2008, 05:03 PM	#12
TAPOUT Professional STI Driver Car: 07 STI LTD #67 Fav Mod: Andrewtech built, Turbo XS tuned GT35R 624 AWHP. 528 AWTQ on VP C16 Location: Springfield, VA Posts: 450 Join Date: Oct 2006 Trader Rating: (1)	Re: "super-bee" Uh....The SRT-8 versions run 12.8-13.0 1/4 mile times. Stage 2 should win but is still a drivers race in his favor (auto for consistency). You have to nail the launch and hope he flies past you after the stripe at the end. He will wax you on the highway. You have the advantage from the start, but he will be reeling you back in.

02-23-2008, 07:20 PM	#13
STIVendetta Spec C Club Car: << 07-STi >> Fav Mod: A Good Wax Job Location: NC- Kingdom of AWD Posts: 1,291 Join Date: May 2007 Trader Rating: (0)	Re: "super-bee" Depends on what one wants to race to.....100 or 140+...."Go" with the Lesser~ with a "great Lanuch".

02-23-2008, 07:30 PM	#14
VtecSTI Spec C Club Car: Blue Slate 08 G37S Fav Mod: None Location: Brevard, NC Posts: 1,179 Join Date: Nov 2005 Trader Rating: (1)	Re: "super-bee" You better have a perfect launch even for a stage 2 car. I would put my money on him even with you stage 2 protuned. 106mph having shifting to 5th gear in the 1/4 mile is extremely difficult to obtain

02-24-2008, 01:10 PM	#15
ablair544 Senior STI Driver Car: 04 silver STI Fav Mod: turboback exhaust Location: laurel, md Posts: 348 Join Date: Jul 2006 Trader Rating: (1)	Re: "super-bee" sti will get him(assuming driving and launch are efficient) the first time i went to the track i raced one and with a 1.76 60 foot and decent shifting i got him he went 13.5 or something like that i went 13.4 (i was stock). He didnt seem to have a good launch but i mean its not like he can misshift or anything so im goin with the sti if the driver is good This ad is not endorsed by this member. Please register or login to hide this ad.