Any 6 puck Clutch owners? - Page 2

hoffit · 01-06-2007, 06:37 PM

I have it. Once it breaks in and once you learn to drive it really it's a very streetable clutch. It can be a little on/off when you are tired or if you have a lot of stop and go traffic. I have a lightweight flywheel with my clutch and I think it's as easy as my Honda Prelude was which had the ACT street/strip clutch and HD pressure plate.

The squeak is almost gone now that I have about 5K on the clutch.

***Neanderthal Racing*** · 01-07-2007, 07:07 AM

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Originally Posted by AnorexicSTI

Well Bruce Chapman is running some sort of RPS... I will have to ask him..

i put myself in 5 miles of bumper to bumper traffic for my 6 puck inauguration. it's like anything else; you just have to get used to it. i still hose myself occasionally when i have to make a quick decision from a stop.

boost_happy · 01-07-2007, 07:27 AM

Clutch Masters does make a 6 puck spring setup which is the best of both worlds, giving you the grip of 6 pucks and the springs give you the ability to slip the clutch in the daily driver world.

**Z1 Performance** · 01-07-2007, 09:22 AM

if you are driving the car daily, I'd recommend the ACT Sprung hub 6 puck - good for 659 lb/ft of torque at the crank, and very affordable. It is MUCH nicer to drive, especially in traffic, vs the solid hub version.

We have them listed on our site: http://www.z1auto.com/prodmore.asp?m...ne&prodid=2314

rmo55c · 01-07-2007, 09:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Z1 Performance

if you are driving the car daily, I'd recommend the ACT Sprung hub 6 puck - good for 659 lb/ft of torque at the crank, and very affordable. It is MUCH nicer to drive, especially in traffic, vs the solid hub version.

We have them listed on our site: http://www.z1auto.com/prodmore.asp?m...ne&prodid=2314

im running the solid hub and i think that the sprung version would have been a perfect compromise - but im still happy, feels like I get to drive a race car around the streets =)

BM_STi · 01-07-2007, 01:28 PM

I start to hate my RPS 6-puck after some stop and go traffic cause once that sucker is heated up real nice it gets pretty touchy. Even with the sprung hub you get a bit of chatter unless you ease it out real slow. It grabs like crazy though!

Definitely no slippage from this disc.

caballero_sti · 01-07-2007, 10:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Z1 Performance

if you are driving the car daily, I'd recommend the ACT Sprung hub 6 puck - good for 659 lb/ft of torque at the crank, and very affordable. It is MUCH nicer to drive, especially in traffic, vs the solid hub version.

We have them listed on our site: http://www.z1auto.com/prodmore.asp?m...ne&prodid=2314

Are u sure that 6 puck it's good for daily drive?

Because I heard a lot of ppl they change to a streetdisc for daily.

***Neanderthal Racing*** · 01-08-2007, 05:10 AM

i consider my car a daily driver, proving conclusively that suitability for daily driving is in the eyes (and left foot) of the beholder. if you are that worried about your ability to manage a 6 puck day to day, either convince yourself otherwise by driving someone elses or don't get it.

AnorexicSTI · 01-08-2007, 05:18 AM

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Originally Posted by BruceChapman

i consider my car a daily driver, proving conclusively that suitability for daily driving is in the eyes (and left foot) of the beholder. if you are that worried about your ability to manage a 6 puck day to day, either convince yourself otherwise by driving someone elses or don't get it.

Here is my question... can the 6 puck be slipped in 1st gear for an "on the knife's edge drag launch" where the tires are on the verge of slipping/spinning but not quite? For 2-5, my 4 puck in my WRX was awesome... but 1st gear, it made this god awful BANGING noise when trying to do a clutch slip launch... so I'm trying to get as much info as I can before going unsprung 6 puck in my STI.

I noticed the RPS 6 puck is sprung... is that the version you have? What is the material? It looks like some sort of kevlar.

**Z1 Performance** · 01-08-2007, 05:26 AM

the 6 puck sprung disk is great for daily driving. the solid disk version is more aggressive in terms of it's engagement from a dead stop, but you get used to it quickly. However, both hold the same torque, so given that, the sprung version is the way to go IMHO

as for the clunk, it has nothing to do with the clutch...you need the TIC rear clunk killer set to cure it.

flatthump · 01-08-2007, 05:37 AM

Why not get a clutch better suited for you torue rating...

I dont think you need to contain 700 ft/lbs if you dont have them to contain.

AnorexicSTI · 01-08-2007, 05:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Z1 Performance

1. the 6 puck sprung disk is great for daily driving. the solid disk version is more aggressive in terms of it's engagement from a dead stop, but you get used to it quickly. However, both hold the same torque, so given that, the sprung version is the way to go IMHO

2. as for the clunk, it has nothing to do with the clutch...you need the TIC rear clunk killer set to cure it.

Well the lower the rotational inertia of the clutch, the quicker the possible shifting without hurting your synchros... essentially, u can shift quicker under race conditions... so that is the advantage of not having the springs... I am fine with no springs 2-6... the question will be is it still possible to "clutch slip launch" a solid 6 disc in an STI consistently without breaking anything (The car is mostly a daily driver with track days, but I still like to drag race once in a while and getting a good time is ALL in the launch and 1-2 shift... after that it's just bringing her home)... I could do it with a 4 puck in a Honda all day long... but my experience with it in the WRX has left some doubts... nobody in my area seems to have a puck clutch in their STI... so getting a ride in 1 seems out of the question...

The clunk was coming from the engine bay... like the motor/tranny was hitting the firewall or strut tower or SOMETHING... it's almost as if the dealer forgot to tighten down a bolt... bad bad experience... that is why I'm doing my own clutch this time.

SilverSurfer · 01-10-2007, 05:00 PM

I have an ACT 6 puck unsprung clutch. I also have an ACT streetlite flywheel.

I would say that the unsprung is definitely streetable even for a daily driver. Like anything, you just need to get used to it. I didn't have to adjust my driving style in any gear except 1st. In 1st gear, it is more sensitive to engagement ("on/off") so I just make sure I am careful taking off from a stop. Really, once you are used to it you don't even think about it anymore... When I first drove the car I think I killed it once. Other than that I think I was adjusted to the clutch within 100 - 200 miles of driving and it wasn't an issue for me.

I haven't drag raced the car yet as the weather is cold and I just got the clutch in Oct. I will drag race it in the spring and I don't think launching will be a problem. I have launched the car a couple times from a dead stop (though not revving it as high as I plan to at the drag strip for the launch) and the clutch was still "slippable". I'm not sure if this is good for the unsprung or how long it will last, but you can definitely slip it if you want to.

I have been running this clutch for ~2500 miles and overall I like it alot - even for a daily driver. I can't say weather the sprung version would be better as I have not driven an STi with an ACT sprung 6 puck. I do know I was told by at least 4-5 people not to use an unsprung clutch as it would be too harsh for a DD car. I am glad I took the risk as I like this setup and I don't think it's "harsh" at all. I guess this is a subjective thing though.

AnorexicSTI · 01-10-2007, 05:40 PM

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Originally Posted by SilverSurfer

I have an ACT 6 puck unsprung clutch. I also have an ACT streetlite flywheel.

I would say that the unsprung is definitely streetable even for a daily driver. Like anything, you just need to get used to it. I didn't have to adjust my driving style in any gear except 1st. In 1st gear, it is more sensitive to engagement ("on/off") so I just make sure I am careful taking off from a stop. Really, once you are used to it you don't even think about it anymore... When I first drove the car I think I killed it once. Other than that I think I was adjusted to the clutch within 100 - 200 miles of driving and it wasn't an issue for me.

I haven't drag raced the car yet as the weather is cold and I just got the clutch in Oct. I will drag race it in the spring and I don't think launching will be a problem. I have launched the car a couple times from a dead stop (though not revving it as high as I plan to at the drag strip for the launch) and the clutch was still "slippable". I'm not sure if this is good for the unsprung or how long it will last, but you can definitely slip it if you want to.

I have been running this clutch for ~2500 miles and overall I like it alot - even for a daily driver. I can't say weather the sprung version would be better as I have not driven an STi with an ACT sprung 6 puck. I do know I was told by at least 4-5 people not to use an unsprung clutch as it would be too harsh for a DD car. I am glad I took the risk as I like this setup and I don't think it's "harsh" at all. I guess this is a subjective thing though.

Thanks bro... I've decided to go with the 6 puck solid...

Now I KNOW that stupid dealer f$cked up that 4 puck install... f$cking idiots... that was 5 years ago... made me not wanna go with puck clutches all this time... I should sue them for taking away from my driving enjoyment...

**Z1 Performance** · 01-11-2007, 06:40 AM

yep unsprung is very streetable as long as you don't mind the grabbiness.

The sprung version totally does away with this and lets the disks absorb that transition from non movement to movement/engagement, and as such, is alot smoother to drive

01-06-2007, 06:37 PM	#16
hoffit Professional STI Racer Car: 04 Subaru WRX STi Fav Mod: Carlabs X-brace & RPM brace Location: MN Posts: 637 Join Date: Oct 2005 Trader Rating: (8)	I have it. Once it breaks in and once you learn to drive it really it's a very streetable clutch. It can be a little on/off when you are tired or if you have a lot of stop and go traffic. I have a lightweight flywheel with my clutch and I think it's as easy as my Honda Prelude was which had the ACT street/strip clutch and HD pressure plate. The squeak is almost gone now that I have about 5K on the clutch. This ad is not endorsed by this member. Please register or login to hide this ad.

01-11-2007, 06:40 AM	#30
Z1 Performance Authorized Vendor Location: St James, NY Posts: 1,770 Join Date: Sep 2005 Trader Rating: (43)	yep unsprung is very streetable as long as you don't mind the grabbiness. The sprung version totally does away with this and lets the disks absorb that transition from non movement to movement/engagement, and as such, is alot smoother to drive This ad is not endorsed by this member. Please register or login to hide this ad.

01-07-2007, 07:27 AM	#18
boost_happy Professional STI Racer Car: 06 STI SGM Fav Mod: seatbelts Location: Dallas Posts: 698 Join Date: Feb 2006 Trader Rating: (3)	Clutch Masters does make a 6 puck spring setup which is the best of both worlds, giving you the grip of 6 pucks and the springs give you the ability to slip the clutch in the daily driver world.

01-07-2007, 09:22 AM	#19
Z1 Performance Authorized Vendor Location: St James, NY Posts: 1,770 Join Date: Sep 2005 Trader Rating: (43)	if you are driving the car daily, I'd recommend the ACT Sprung hub 6 puck - good for 659 lb/ft of torque at the crank, and very affordable. It is MUCH nicer to drive, especially in traffic, vs the solid hub version. We have them listed on our site: http://www.z1auto.com/prodmore.asp?m...ne&prodid=2314

01-07-2007, 01:28 PM	#21
BM_STi S204 Racer Car: 04.7 AW STi Location: NorCal (707) Posts: 2,853 Join Date: Apr 2004 Trader Rating: (6)	I start to hate my RPS 6-puck after some stop and go traffic cause once that sucker is heated up real nice it gets pretty touchy. Even with the sprung hub you get a bit of chatter unless you ease it out real slow. It grabs like crazy though! Definitely no slippage from this disc.

01-08-2007, 05:10 AM	#23
*Neanderthal Racing* GT R US Car: CUTN EDG project Fav Mod: $20. mudflaps from auto zone Location: my cave Posts: 5,833 Join Date: Dec 2003 Trader Rating: (1)	i consider my car a daily driver, proving conclusively that suitability for daily driving is in the eyes (and left foot) of the beholder. if you are that worried about your ability to manage a 6 puck day to day, either convince yourself otherwise by driving someone elses or don't get it.

01-08-2007, 05:26 AM	#25
Z1 Performance Authorized Vendor Location: St James, NY Posts: 1,770 Join Date: Sep 2005 Trader Rating: (43)	the 6 puck sprung disk is great for daily driving. the solid disk version is more aggressive in terms of it's engagement from a dead stop, but you get used to it quickly. However, both hold the same torque, so given that, the sprung version is the way to go IMHO as for the clunk, it has nothing to do with the clutch...you need the TIC rear clunk killer set to cure it.

01-08-2007, 05:37 AM	#26
flatthump Enginerd Car: The Spaze Mobile Fav Mod: Tuning Location: South O.C., Ca Posts: 12,844 Join Date: Jan 2006 Trader Rating: (5)	Why not get a clutch better suited for you torue rating... I dont think you need to contain 700 ft/lbs if you dont have them to contain.

01-10-2007, 05:00 PM	#28
SilverSurfer Professional STI Racer Car: 2002 WRX MBP Fav Mod: raw carbon fiber Location: Bloomington, IL Posts: 736 Join Date: Oct 2004 Trader Rating: (5)	I have an ACT 6 puck unsprung clutch. I also have an ACT streetlite flywheel. I would say that the unsprung is definitely streetable even for a daily driver. Like anything, you just need to get used to it. I didn't have to adjust my driving style in any gear except 1st. In 1st gear, it is more sensitive to engagement ("on/off") so I just make sure I am careful taking off from a stop. Really, once you are used to it you don't even think about it anymore... When I first drove the car I think I killed it once. Other than that I think I was adjusted to the clutch within 100 - 200 miles of driving and it wasn't an issue for me. I haven't drag raced the car yet as the weather is cold and I just got the clutch in Oct. I will drag race it in the spring and I don't think launching will be a problem. I have launched the car a couple times from a dead stop (though not revving it as high as I plan to at the drag strip for the launch) and the clutch was still "slippable". I'm not sure if this is good for the unsprung or how long it will last, but you can definitely slip it if you want to. I have been running this clutch for ~2500 miles and overall I like it alot - even for a daily driver. I can't say weather the sprung version would be better as I have not driven an STi with an ACT sprung 6 puck. I do know I was told by at least 4-5 people not to use an unsprung clutch as it would be too harsh for a DD car. I am glad I took the risk as I like this setup and I don't think it's "harsh" at all. I guess this is a subjective thing though.