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Old 12-03-2006, 12:04 PM   #1
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Default So I installed my COBB Shifter yesterday..

Well I did some research before buying it. It was pretty much between the COBB and the Kartboy. I figured the adjustability would be worth the extra cash. So I went with the COBB. The instructions are very detailed and the shifter looks pretty good. The install sucked though. I stripped out 3 bolts on the lower shaft though when installing it. The first allen bolt that they sent me was a joke. The first one I had (the allen wrench caused this im pretty sure) stripped out the head. So I finally get it out and buy a new allen bolt. I tightened it 2 times (to re adjust the throw) and it pulled the threads out. So I get a nut and a bolt and put that in and tighten it about 2 times (again trying to adjust the throw) and it pulls the threads on that one. I run down and got another nut and bolt and adjusted it one time and left it. I think the shifter needs a much larger size bolt to clamp the bottom piece. Im going to call COBB on monday and let them know what happened. To top all of this off though, I swear at the point I have it adjusted to its longer than the stock throw. My girlfriend sometimes drives me car and I asked her what she thought of it. She just said it felt longer than it was before. So I think Im going to sell it and buy a Kartboy. Any opinions or feedback?


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Old 12-03-2006, 01:20 PM   #2
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GF thinks it's longer.... Hmmm, that can't be all bad!

OK, seriously, I have one of these and you can adjust it so it's considerably shorter than stock. Double check how you have it set.

I was really carefull with those allen bolts and as stated in the instructions I did not over tighten. One day a few weeks later my shifter banged into the back of my consol bezel in 4th. The Cobb unit had loosened and slipped.

I re-adjusted and retightened a little bit more. It's been good since.

I bet Cobb will replace yours. They were really good about getting me a redesigned one piece replacement intake when my early on 2-piece model glued with space age cyanoacrilate adhesive split neatly into two pieces that really fouled up my MAF. I knew carrying that roll of duct tape in my trunk would come in handy sometime!... anyway my point is they were very reponsive to my complaint.
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Old 12-03-2006, 01:39 PM   #3
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Heres a few pix I took today...

http://www.we-todd-did-racing.com/vi...l/968978_bzlwn

http://www.we-todd-did-racing.com/vi...l/968975_mw6mz
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Old 12-03-2006, 02:13 PM   #4
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You have it wrong my friend. The concept of this shifter is adjust the bottom part long (high) and the top part short (low) for the best quick throw set up.

To do this, you MUST cut the front drivers side corner out of the metal piece that holds the rubber thingy in there. You remove it from the car, cut it in a vice with a hacksaw and or dremmel/file it. You cut it to make that inside part of the corner square so you have maximum room for the lever that goes to the tranny linkage fit when the bottom part of your Cobb shifter is adjusted to the highest setting you can make it.

With that corner part cut out (the sort of triangular inside metal part of that driver's front corner) the Cobb shifter is then adjusted as long (tall/high) as it can go in first gear without that long lever going to the tranny hitting the area you just cut out. I have mine touching it in first gear... actually it rests against the rubber part that I put grease on so it would not tear. It's a lever principle where the taller that pivot point is the shorter the throw...

... but adjusting the bottom part higher makes the shifter knob higher as that's why the top is adjustable to make it lower. With the bottom part as long (high) as you can get it without binding against the part you cut, you can adjust the top part shorter to make it stock height but you'll still have shorter throws, or quite a bit lower than stock knob position for the shortest feel with a low knob height. Some people don't like it that low because they hit their elbow on the center consol arm rest.

Hope this helps. Should have been included in the Cobb instructions. They might have the instructions available on their website?

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Check out this HOW TO video install of the Cobb Short Shifter on Subie TV: www.subie.tv

http://www.subie.tv/player/?videoid=30&catid=1
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Old 12-03-2006, 02:35 PM   #6
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Yup, a video is worth a thousand words! That's what I was trying to say...
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I have watched the how to multiple times and I have the instructions from COBB on how to install the shifter. It works in the same principle as I had thought. If you raise the bottom of it up then the throw is shorter. If you move the bottom adjustment down then the throw is longer. I have mine adjusted pretty far up as you can see in the pics. From what I understand the upper adjustment just dictates where your shift knob will sit. It has nothing to do with the throw of the shifter. My thought on this was that why should I cut the shifter plate if its not even going to give me that much less throw. I suppose I will adjust it the little bit it has left and cut the plate and see what happens.
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Old 12-03-2006, 02:48 PM   #8
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I hear ya but you need to cut the plate to get the fulcrum lever affect that shortens the throws. Cutting that plate doesn't affect anything else and you don't see it when everything is reinstalled.

Lowering the knob with the top adjustment does several things at once:

- Lowers your knob position
- shortens how far front to rear you move the knob when you shift from one
gear to another
- increases the effrort it takes (from your arm muscles) to shift because you have less leverage. This is noticable at first if you go very short with your top adjustment. Soon though, you get used to it and seems very normal again

Most Suby enthusiasts really like my shifter feel over stock.. Not quite S2000 snick snick, but pretty darn nice. I think you'll like it when your done.

Good luck.
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From what I understand the upper adjustment just dictates where your shift knob will sit. It has nothing to do with the throw of the shifter.
Not completely true, but it is certainly true that the lower adjustment has a greater effect.
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My thought on this was that why should I cut the shifter plate if its not even going to give me that much less throw. I suppose I will adjust it the little bit it has left and cut the plate and see what happens.
After reading that I decided to take a look at your pictures. You are nowhere near getting the throws as short as you can. Cut that corner out as the instructions show, and raise that lower adjustment up until the shift rod just barely clears the rubber boot in first gear without binding it into dust. Then you will see just how sweet a piece the Cobb shifter is.

Oh -- and be prepared for noticeably higher shift effort.
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Alright, thanks alot guys. I have driven Hondas and Nissans with short throws and they were much shorter compared to what I have my COBB shifter set at now. Ill go ahead and try readjusting it and Ill let you guys know what happens.
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Old 12-03-2006, 03:27 PM   #11
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I have the COBB Adjustable Shifter and it shortened the throws nicely.
I chose to have a higher shifter, with the throws shorter.
Was definitely improvement overstock. I did cut the upper left hand corner out as suggested.
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I have watched the how to multiple times and I have the instructions from COBB on how to install the shifter. It works in the same principle as I had thought. If you raise the bottom of it up then the throw is shorter. If you move the bottom adjustment down then the throw is longer. I have mine adjusted pretty far up as you can see in the pics. From what I understand the upper adjustment just dictates where your shift knob will sit. It has nothing to do with the throw of the shifter. My thought on this was that why should I cut the shifter plate if its not even going to give me that much less throw. I suppose I will adjust it the little bit it has left and cut the plate and see what happens.
Ummmm, wrong thought. I agree that the plate should be cut and the bottom adjusted long as previously described.

On another note, I'm concerned that the quality of the Cobb part has diminished with so many posting stripped threads. I did not experience this issue, and am extremely happy with my Cobb (Turnin Concepts bushed) SS.

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Default Re: So I installed my COBB Shifter yesterday..

Just ordered my COBB SS.

Anyone with a picture of how much they had to cut their '06 / '07 trim plate?

I'm guessing the corner gusset with the bolts need to go on the driver front corner? Thanks.
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Old 07-14-2007, 08:43 AM   #14
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Just ordered my COBB SS.

Anyone with a picture of how much they had to cut their '06 / '07 trim plate?

I'm guessing the corner gusset with the bolts need to go on the driver front corner? Thanks.
The instructions that come witht he shifter have a diagram of how much to trim.
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The instructions that come witht he shifter have a diagram of how much to trim.
Ah I see...thanks, time to watch for the brown delivery van.


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