what car wax do you use ?? - Page 4

xirallicGDB-F · 01-02-2008, 06:42 PM

Automotive paints are not electro-static based there urathane based and simply applyed with air pressure and a h.v.l.p. gun. You may be thinking of the new water-based paints that require a special drying gun to cure them, or maybe your thinking of the guys that come around to car lots and do the "on the spot" jobs (they use turbine powered guns). Otherwise your simply thinking of powdercoating. I will ask about clear bras though, good point there.

xirallicGDB-F · 01-02-2008, 06:45 PM

By the way, automotive paints do have to breath thats how they cure. The solvents have to evaporate over time. Thats why autobody shops tell you not to wax your car for 90 days after you get it painted.

sujak · 01-02-2008, 06:49 PM

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Originally Posted by xirallicGDB-F

Automotive paints are not electro-static based there urathane based and simply applyed with air pressure and a h.v.l.p. gun. You may be thinking of the new water-based paints that require a special drying gun to cure them, or maybe your thinking of the guys that come around to car lots and do the "on the spot" jobs (they use turbine powered guns). Otherwise your simply thinking of powdercoating. I will ask about clear bras though, good point there.

I'm not a paint expert, but everytime ive seen a car at the autobody getting painted it's always in a "kilm" or oven being baked for a good 24hours...
Yes it needs to "breathe" to cure, but several years down the road it doesn't have too.

*offtopic* have you ever heard of the freaking "edit/modify" button, jebus christ..

xirallicGDB-F · 01-02-2008, 07:35 PM

I think I know what your talking about, some paint booths have heat lamps built into them. If It were a kiln like they use in powdercoating it would be a completely sealed oven with no windows. 24 hours seems way too long for a fresh paint job though. However, I live in florida so we barely ever use heat lamps to speed the curing process. Im not too knowledgeable on heat lamps, but Im sure they have to use them more up north.

Phame · 01-02-2008, 07:43 PM

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Originally Posted by xirallicGDB-F

I think I know what your talking about, some paint booths have heat lamps built into them. If It were a kiln like they use in powdercoating it would be a completely sealed oven with no windows. 24 hours seems way too long for a fresh paint job though. However, I live in florida so we barely ever use heat lamps to speed the curing process. Im not too knowledgeable on heat lamps, but Im sure they have to use them more up north.

Up north....WHERE ITS 16 EFFING DEGREES OUT RIGHT NOW!

xirallicGDB-F · 01-02-2008, 07:46 PM

Yea bro its 41 degrees in south west fl. right now (the coldest day/night in years for us) Its a cold one tonight for sure!

turbosmitty · 01-28-2008, 02:49 AM

Rejex

Peleg · 02-06-2008, 06:54 PM

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Originally Posted by xirallicGDB-F

your paint has to breath just like your skin. Carnubas tend to clog the pores of your paint essentially cutting down the life of your paint. Body shops usually use "an alternative to wax" that contains no waxes or silicones.

I'm not attacking you, but rather curious.

So you are saying that P21S Carnauba wax for instance is not recommanded, although it gets great results on dark cars?

I thought Carnauba didn't contain silicons.

Please elaborate.

SCE-CHRIS · 02-15-2008, 10:32 AM

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Originally Posted by sujak

right now ive used all of megauirs products

Soap
Clay
Meguiars Step 1
Meguiars Step 2
Meguiars Step 3

And only thing im going to change is instead of using their 1-3 step ill be using

Show Glaze #7 or Body Shop Professional Swirl Free Polish #82
Hi-Tech Yellow Wax #26

I'll still be using their soap/clays

+1
I used Zaino and went back to Meguiars. and 26 smells like banana....

WillisW555 · 02-15-2008, 10:44 AM

I clayed and waxed my car this past weekend. I used Meguir's clay with their quick detailer. I used Black Magic wax. It looks really good... then we got fog... damn fog

With regard to claying... you could clay a small area of your car and see how that feels compared to the rest of the body. If it feels noticeably better, you probably should clay the whole thing. It's a lot of work but if you take care of your paint you shouldn't have to clay that often.

Kamrulz4ever · 03-12-2008, 08:07 AM

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Originally Posted by Peleg

I'm not attacking you, but rather curious.

So you are saying that P21S Carnauba wax for instance is not recommanded, although it gets great results on dark cars?

I thought Carnauba didn't contain silicons.

Please elaborate.

I'm curious about the P21S Carnauba wax too. I understand that the paint/clear coat needs to "breath" in order to dry. However, when the cars out of the factory to the show rooms, the paint/clear coats are fully dry and they're fully cured. So, why does the paint need to breath later on?

chaos311clarity · 03-12-2008, 08:10 AM

your paint only needs to outgas for a certain amount of time... there is a point at which it no longer has anything to release... and honestly daily driving a car will reduce the life of the paint... the differences are negligable.

carnuba and sealant combo ftw.

Kamrulz4ever · 03-12-2008, 12:25 PM

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Originally Posted by chaos311clarity

your paint only needs to outgas for a certain amount of time... there is a point at which it no longer has anything to release... and honestly daily driving a car will reduce the life of the paint... the differences are negligable.

carnuba and sealant combo ftw.

+1...

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01-02-2008, 06:45 PM	#47
xirallicGDB-F Junior STI Driver Car: satin white pearl 07 Fav Mod: Coming Soon Location: Ft. Myers, Fl. Posts: 121 Join Date: Aug 2007 Trader Rating: (0)	Re: what car wax do you use ?? By the way, automotive paints do have to breath thats how they cure. The solvents have to evaporate over time. Thats why autobody shops tell you not to wax your car for 90 days after you get it painted. Last edited by xirallicGDB-F : 01-02-2008 at 06:57 PM. Reason: missed a word

01-02-2008, 07:35 PM	#49
xirallicGDB-F Junior STI Driver Car: satin white pearl 07 Fav Mod: Coming Soon Location: Ft. Myers, Fl. Posts: 121 Join Date: Aug 2007 Trader Rating: (0)	Re: what car wax do you use ?? I think I know what your talking about, some paint booths have heat lamps built into them. If It were a kiln like they use in powdercoating it would be a completely sealed oven with no windows. 24 hours seems way too long for a fresh paint job though. However, I live in florida so we barely ever use heat lamps to speed the curing process. Im not too knowledgeable on heat lamps, but Im sure they have to use them more up north.

01-02-2008, 07:46 PM	#51
xirallicGDB-F Junior STI Driver Car: satin white pearl 07 Fav Mod: Coming Soon Location: Ft. Myers, Fl. Posts: 121 Join Date: Aug 2007 Trader Rating: (0)	Re: what car wax do you use ?? Yea bro its 41 degrees in south west fl. right now (the coldest day/night in years for us) Its a cold one tonight for sure!

01-28-2008, 02:49 AM	#52
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02-15-2008, 10:44 AM	#55
WillisW555 Junior STI Driver Car: 06 WRB STI Location: South San Francisco Posts: 56 Join Date: Mar 2007 Trader Rating: (0)	Re: what car wax do you use ?? I clayed and waxed my car this past weekend. I used Meguir's clay with their quick detailer. I used Black Magic wax. It looks really good... then we got fog... damn fog With regard to claying... you could clay a small area of your car and see how that feels compared to the rest of the body. If it feels noticeably better, you probably should clay the whole thing. It's a lot of work but if you take care of your paint you shouldn't have to clay that often.

03-12-2008, 08:10 AM	#57
chaos311clarity STI Guru Car: 05 CGM STi Fav Mod: grip. Location: Southeastern PA Posts: 5,757 Join Date: Aug 2006 Trader Rating: (7)	Re: what car wax do you use ?? your paint only needs to outgas for a certain amount of time... there is a point at which it no longer has anything to release... and honestly daily driving a car will reduce the life of the paint... the differences are negligable. carnuba and sealant combo ftw.