[VSGTS14]

it was probably from the pad you used and you're not suppose to go in a circular motion....back and forth.

[Redline927]

Originally Posted by Peleg

do NOT claybar it, it's new and doesn't need claybar for at least a year from now.

Not true. New cars usually need to be clayed immediately. A lot of contaminants find their way to the paint long before the customer even picks up the car. Airborn particles from the factory, rail dust from shipment, other crap from riding on the back of a truck in bad weather, etc.

to the OP, your car will need to be polished to remove the swirls. The method of polishing (machine or hand, abrasive level of polish, etc) will be determined by how bad the swirls are.

some general guidelines:
Start with the least abrasive polish to get the job done. For moderate swirls, I'll use Poorboys SSR2.5 applied via Porter Cable with Lake Country orange pad, followed by SSR1, to remove any hazing caused by the 2.5. This is because I have experience with a bunch polishes and I've detailed a lot of cars of all different severities of swirls, so I know what my go-to products are. Generally, if you're not sure, start with a low abrasive polish. If that doesnt do the job, try something a little more abrasive. Work each panel until youre satisfied. Protect your finish with the wax of your choice, I like Poorboys Natty's blue carnauba, or I use Zaino.

Read up on Autopia.org, just don't get lost in there.

[Redline927]

Originally Posted by VSGTS14

it was probably from the pad you used and you're not suppose to go in a circular motion....back and forth.

No, waxing in a circular motion is fine.

[mllrsti]

Like I have told other people time and time again..... Look into Adams Products. Adamspolishes.com

[VSGTS14]

Originally Posted by Redline927

No, waxing in a circular motion is fine.

of course it is..that's why he has swirls


30k on my car, no swirls.

[Redline927]

Originally Posted by VSGTS14

of course it is..that's why he has swirls


30k on my car, no swirls.

I said there is nothing wrong with waxing in a circular motion. You said to wax in lines.

If your surface is clean, and your pad is clean, there wont be any issues.

As a detailer for Meguiars once said, if you have to put a product on in straight lines in order to "hide" swirls, than you shouldnt be putting that product on your car.


I agree 100%.

['05CrystalGray]

Listen to most of the comments above.

It is possible that you did leave swirl marks all over you paint. What kind of towel did you use to buff off the wax? Was it a microfiber towel or did you use a generic towel from your bathroom?

[Peleg]

Originally Posted by 05_GD7

If you're not a detailing buff (no pun intended) then I don't recommend getting into Porter Cables, wierd compound waxes, and claybars.

The best idiot proof, off the shelf wax, by far, is Meguiars NXT. You apply it, let it dry in 20 min, then wipe it off. No swirls, no smudges.

It is a synthetic, has a bit of cleaning compound, and isn't the most durable, so you'll have to do it once every 2 months or so....but its easy and looks fantastic. I've had great results with it on my black paint.

You don't have to be a rocket scientist to use a porter polisher.

Second, wax doesn't take out swirlmarks.

[Peleg]

Originally Posted by Redline927

Not true. New cars usually need to be clayed immediately. A lot of contaminants find their way to the paint long before the customer even picks up the car. Airborn particles from the factory, rail dust from shipment, other crap from riding on the back of a truck in bad weather, etc.

Each to his own I guess.

[DARKSTI]

Peleg, I have to agree, my own car needed a clay badly right after I got it. They don't use a mitt to wash most of the cars at the swirl-o-ships and leave a lot of stuff behind.

Originally Posted by Peleg

Each to his own I guess.

[boostedrex05]

wax by hand you might have to work hard but you will get the best results.

[Smbvolsr1]

i washed the car before i waxed and i used some carnuba wax. i applied it with a waxing pad (yes the pad was dirty), and i wiped it off with a microfiber towell. i did it when it was really sunny so i could really see the swirls when i was done. i dont really want to get into that clay and all of that stuff but the wax/polish i bought from autozone sucks... didnt do a thing. i washed it this morning and they are stilll there. its not scratches but its almost like i cant wipe them off because they are under the clearcoat..

[QuickSilverSTi]

Originally Posted by boostedrex05

wax by hand you might have to work hard but you will get the best results.

Not better than a porter-cable..I used to think the same thing and spent hours layering Pinnacle Souveran on my Carbon Black E46 M3. High-quality microfiber/wax products plus the porter-cable will net better results than by hand.

[QuickSilverSTi]

Originally Posted by Smbvolsr1

i washed the car before i waxed and i used some carnuba wax. i applied it with a waxing pad (yes the pad was dirty), and i wiped it off with a microfiber towell. i did it when it was really sunny so i could really see the swirls when i was done. i dont really want to get into that clay and all of that stuff but the wax/polish i bought from autozone sucks... didnt do a thing. i washed it this morning and they are stilll there. its not scratches but its almost like i cant wipe them off because they are under the clearcoat..

swirl marks in the clear coat, that's all you have...just a ton of them from rubbing dirt into your clear coat by using a dirty pad. You are going to have to use a clay bar (not that time consuming) and then try Menzerna Final Polish II and then wax it. Personally, I'd use a glaze after the polish but you don't need to. OR just take it to a good detailer and pay them. You say you don't want to get into all the stuff yet you want the swirls gone...well, you can do that "stuff", pay someone else to do that "stuff" or keep the swirls...it's that simple. / thread

[Redline927]

Originally Posted by QuickSilverSTi

swirl marks in the clear coat, that's all you have...just a ton of them from rubbing dirt into your clear coat by using a dirty pad. You are going to have to use a clay bar (not that time consuming) and then try Menzerna Final Polish II and then wax it. Personally, I'd use a glaze after the polish but you don't need to. OR just take it to a good detailer and pay them. You say you don't want to get into all the stuff yet you want the swirls gone...well, you can do that "stuff", pay someone else to do that "stuff" or keep the swirls...it's that simple. / thread

I think he should just take it to a detailer and have them take care of it, because (seriously not trying to offend the op) I dont think he really knows much about detailing, or enough to take care of the swirls himself. I mean he admited to using a DIRTY pad to apply the wax, you might as well use a brillo pad or something.

I'd suggest he gets it detailed and then do some research on how to properly wash the car so the swirls dont come back. At this point I think if he tries to polish it himself, it might turn out worse if not done properly.