wax?

Bunghollio · 10-09-2005, 12:52 AM

i have many swirl marks on PSM that u cant really tell but when the light hits it just right u can see fine circuler scratchs if i wax the car would it take all all those small swirls off? ( ive never waxed my car ever )

STI Rocker · 10-09-2005, 01:04 AM

ya it should if you do it right.

klaymon · 10-09-2005, 07:07 AM

You need a polish or paint cleaner to remove/conceal swirls (depending on how deep they are). Wax won't do it. Search in the Exterior forum for swirl marks and you'll find threads on 30 different products that do the trick. I used a Meguiars 3-step product called Deep Crystal System. I had very light swirls in my clearcoat, and after many hours of using this method, they're gone.

WE_R_ND · 10-09-2005, 10:20 AM

Find a good swirl remover, 3M makes a few. Just get some and do a few coats to get rid of the marks then wax and polish over it. Make sure your car is completely clean. Don't go cheap either. Get a good wax like Zaino or Meguiers. Do a search if you want the Meguiers. I can't recommend which to get becasue I use Zaino.

Alcheringa · 10-09-2005, 10:38 AM

Really, the only way to remove *all* swirl marks is to use a good dual-action orbital buffer, or a rotary if you have the skills or know someone who does.

Since you have never even waxed your car yet, I suspect you don't. If you can afford an STi, dropping another $130 for a buffer shouldn't hurt you too bad.

Check out this earlier thread for a better explanation. You can achieve incredible results.

*Get Rid* of Swirl Marks = Menzerna

Keep in mind I just went to a local car show last night, and out of probably 60 vehicles only *one* had a properly taken care of, swirl free finish. We are talking about beautifully done HemiCudas, vintage Ferraris, that were *tore* up under the evening lights.

Seems to be an epidemic, which is a shame because all it takes is purchasing a buffer and some decent product to get things near perfect.

Alcheringa · 10-09-2005, 10:47 AM

And KLAYMON is right. Unless it is a cleaner/wax, the purpose of a good quality wax is to shine and protect *after* you have compounded or polished imperfections away. It will not contain any of the abrasives necessary for rubbing it out.

1) Compound (deep scratches and swirls, hard-water etching and spots)
2) Polish (normal swirls and light water spots)
3) Glaze (this is the *filler* you are thinking of--like *makeup* for a car)
4) "Wax" (synthetic or carnuba)

Everyone has their own brand, but as a rule don't go cheap and you'll get great results. I wouldn't deviate far beneath Meguire's, and their *Professional* line at that. Not that much more expensive, and manufactured to be used with a buffer.

10-09-2005, 12:52 AM	#1
Bunghollio Senior STI Driver Car: 05 Subaru WRX STi Location: Glendale Posts: 360 Join Date: Jan 2005 Trader Rating: (0)	wax? i have many swirl marks on PSM that u cant really tell but when the light hits it just right u can see fine circuler scratchs if i wax the car would it take all all those small swirls off? ( ive never waxed my car ever ) This ad is not endorsed by this member. Please register or login to hide this ad.

10-09-2005, 10:47 AM	#6
Alcheringa Amateur STI Driver Car: 05 WRB Location: Arizona Posts: 14 Join Date: Sep 2005 Trader Rating: (0)	And KLAYMON is right. Unless it is a cleaner/wax, the purpose of a good quality wax is to shine and protect after you have compounded or polished imperfections away. It will not contain any of the abrasives necessary for rubbing it out. 1) Compound (deep scratches and swirls, hard-water etching and spots) 2) Polish (normal swirls and light water spots) 3) Glaze (this is the filler you are thinking of--like makeup for a car) 4) "Wax" (synthetic or carnuba) Everyone has their own brand, but as a rule don't go cheap and you'll get great results. I wouldn't deviate far beneath Meguire's, and their Professional line at that. Not that much more expensive, and manufactured to be used with a buffer. This ad is not endorsed by this member. Please register or login to hide this ad.

10-09-2005, 01:04 AM	#2
STI Rocker Junior STI Driver Car: 05 AW STi Fav Mod: APS 3.5 exausht Location: Gilbert Az Posts: 144 Join Date: Jun 2005 Trader Rating: (0)	ya it should if you do it right.

10-09-2005, 07:07 AM	#3
klaymon S204 Racer Posts: 3,083 Join Date: Jul 2004 Trader Rating: (1)	You need a polish or paint cleaner to remove/conceal swirls (depending on how deep they are). Wax won't do it. Search in the Exterior forum for swirl marks and you'll find threads on 30 different products that do the trick. I used a Meguiars 3-step product called Deep Crystal System. I had very light swirls in my clearcoat, and after many hours of using this method, they're gone.

10-09-2005, 10:20 AM	#4
WE_R_ND Spec C Club Fav Mod: Track Time Location: Des Moines, IA Posts: 2,267 Join Date: Jan 2004 Trader Rating: (0)	Find a good swirl remover, 3M makes a few. Just get some and do a few coats to get rid of the marks then wax and polish over it. Make sure your car is completely clean. Don't go cheap either. Get a good wax like Zaino or Meguiers. Do a search if you want the Meguiers. I can't recommend which to get becasue I use Zaino.

10-09-2005, 10:38 AM	#5
Alcheringa Amateur STI Driver Car: 05 WRB Location: Arizona Posts: 14 Join Date: Sep 2005 Trader Rating: (0)	Really, the only way to remove all swirl marks is to use a good dual-action orbital buffer, or a rotary if you have the skills or know someone who does. Since you have never even waxed your car yet, I suspect you don't. If you can afford an STi, dropping another $130 for a buffer shouldn't hurt you too bad. Check out this earlier thread for a better explanation. You can achieve incredible results. Get Rid of Swirl Marks = Menzerna Keep in mind I just went to a local car show last night, and out of probably 60 vehicles only one had a properly taken care of, swirl free finish. We are talking about beautifully done HemiCudas, vintage Ferraris, that were tore up under the evening lights. Seems to be an epidemic, which is a shame because all it takes is purchasing a buffer and some decent product to get things near perfect.