I need a new wax asap

SlvSTI05 · 03-31-2005, 07:47 PM

Iv tried lots of stuff out there, in my experience zaino is by far the best from what I have seen. As great as it worked and as long as it lasted I just cant stand to go through the PITA process everytime. Since I got my STi iv been using the NXT Meguiars stuff. It works great cant complain, its just the smoothness and protections lasts about 2 washes. Im looking for something out there that is as good as zaino without the 45 step process.

izzodesh · 03-31-2005, 08:52 PM

i love zaino too
but nothing comes close
only quick thing that is half decent is
turtle wax
but i only do that if i reallllllllllly
dont have the time

***MKIVSupra*** · 03-31-2005, 09:30 PM

I have been using Klasse for a few years now and love it. Some guys like Klasse AIO followed with some NXT. I prefer a quality carnauba wax for added depth to the color. You could just apply a coat of Klasse AIO and a coat or two of Klasse Sealant Glaze and have a nice long lasting shine. What I do though, is put on a coat of Klasse AIO, then a couple coats of Klasse Sealant Glaze, followed by a few coats of a carnauba wax, not all in one day btw. Might not be much easier than Zaino but honestly to get a good quality shine it is going to take a few different coats of stuff. One thing, after the first wash of spring this year, after a few months of no washes during the winter, I noticed the finish is still pretty smooth and slick so this year I might just stick with the carnauba wax and not bother cleaning and reaplying the Klasse products. That is one thing that has impressed me with Klasse, is how long it lasts, of course I probably apply more coats then I need to but my car looks great.

Black&Gold · 03-31-2005, 09:54 PM

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Originally Posted by nhluhr

found a snapshot of my wing with ultrashine... i realize that it's easy to make the wing look glassy like that with just about any wax, but the Ultrashine actually also does a good job of masking the subaru-paint's orangepeel:

Wow.

***BoostJunkie*** · 03-31-2005, 10:13 PM

I second the recommendation for klasse. I use all-in-one and sealant glaze and they are the best products I have come across. I applied one coat of AIO and one coat of sealant glaze in December and when I washed my car for the first time since that detail in March, it still felt like there was a good coat of wax on it. If you really want to maintain the shine, use both klasse products once every 3-6 months, and use a carnauba wax (I like Pinnacle Souveran) once every few weeks. I guarantee you won't find a better combo than this.

***MKIVSupra*** · 04-02-2005, 09:58 AM

I did the same thing. Washed in November or maybe the beginning of December and did not wash it again till March. The finish was still smooth and shiney.

BTW BoosJunkie, that is the exact combo I use, Klasse and Pinnacle Souveran.

***BoostJunkie*** · 04-02-2005, 11:11 AM

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Wait - are you saying you didn't wash your car at all from december all the way until march?

yeah, I go to school in Ohio and our winters suck. I don't have anywhere to wash my car by hand so I have to take it to one of those do it yourself places. so it costs money and the car is literally dirty again 20 minutes later so it's pretty pointless. So I just put a good coat of wax on and let it be dirty for a few months. Seems to work fine, the car just looks like crap for awhile.

Slowride · 04-02-2005, 02:31 PM

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Originally Posted by nhluhr

I just recently switched from TurtleWax Ultrashine to Meguires NXT.... I'm NOT impressed at all with the NXT. If you try to put it on thick, it becomes extremely hard to buff off and again, the shine doesn't last that long....

What's the point of thick coats? It's not like you end up with a thicker layer of wax after you wipe it off. I mean, you could apply it with a putty knife, but only so much will adhere to the paint. After you've applied enough, you're just wasting material and making removal harder. In my experience.

NXT looks great when it's fresh, and it goes on and comes off very easily, but it doesn't seem to last any longer than any other finish. Is there anything that really lasts noticeably longer than the latest synthetics?

***MKIVSupra*** · 04-02-2005, 04:52 PM

Not a true wax like carnauba, it can melt and evaporate, which is why I use a synthetic as the base coats. My point was that everyone says how bad salt and the chemicals used during the winter on the roads are and that you need to wash it off regularly. I figured all that sitting on the finish for months would have eaten away at the wax.

SlvSTI05 · 04-02-2005, 08:20 PM

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Originally Posted by BoostJunkie

I second the recommendation for klasse. I use all-in-one and sealant glaze and they are the best products I have come across. I applied one coat of AIO and one coat of sealant glaze in December and when I washed my car for the first time since that detail in March, it still felt like there was a good coat of wax on it. If you really want to maintain the shine, use both klasse products once every 3-6 months, and use a carnauba wax (I like Pinnacle Souveran) once every few weeks. I guarantee you won't find a better combo than this.

Any suggestions or reccomendations on where to buy these two products?

Thanks for the info!

chancers · 04-02-2005, 09:17 PM

I use an obscure wax called Formula113 (www.formula113.tv). This stuff is truly high end. It goes on easy. Comes off easy. No powder, dust or caking in the crevices/trim (stuff dries clear). Formula113 is an organic wax(carnuba) so it won't last as long as the synthetics. But, it's awesome.

Zaino...I hear this stuff is great (www.zainostore.com). I haven't used it, but will be soon (just ordered the whole kit). I wonder how labor intensive Zaino is. I've got 3 cars waiting for Zaino (2 black cars and an 04 wrb Sti). I plan on doing the whole Zaino 9 yards followed by a coat of Formula113 (combining synthetics and organics). Supposedly, the synthetics will give you that brilliant mirrorlike look while the organics will give you that warm,deep wet look.

I haven't used Klasse, but plan on ordering some soon.

***BoostJunkie*** · 04-03-2005, 10:21 AM

I buy all my products at www.autogeek.net. They have a huge selection and always get my stuff to me very quickly.

chancers · 04-03-2005, 12:48 PM

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Originally Posted by nhluhr

I saw Formula113 on tv a couple nights ago actually. I was thinking to myself "wow it's the next Auri Shine 2000" and secretly laughing inside.

Is it actually good?

Yes, it's really good. I'll take this stuff over NXT, Mothers, or Zymol any day.

I actually bought a bottle at a car show in Fort Lauderdale. Almost all the cars there were using Formula113. Hey, if it's good enough for car shows, Jay Leno, and the batmobile, it's good enough for me.

rodent · 04-03-2005, 03:03 PM

I'm still a big fan of Zaino. I've tried others and they don't seam to last that long. Figure to spend most of the day when you do a complete Zaino job.

s14roller · 04-03-2005, 08:48 PM

For wax my fav. is probably Zymol. Works great and lasts a ton longer than Meguiar's wax. It can be found pretty easier at auto stores and walmart which is another plus.

03-31-2005, 07:47 PM	#1
SlvSTI05 Spec C Club Car: 2006 Steel Grey STi Fav Mod: Invidia TBE Location: Tulsa, Oklahoma Posts: 1,071 Join Date: Dec 2004 Trader Rating: (7)	RE: Re: RE: pink i emblem Iv tried lots of stuff out there, in my experience zaino is by far the best from what I have seen. As great as it worked and as long as it lasted I just cant stand to go through the PITA process everytime. Since I got my STi iv been using the NXT Meguiars stuff. It works great cant complain, its just the smoothness and protections lasts about 2 washes. Im looking for something out there that is as good as zaino without the 45 step process. This ad is not endorsed by this member. Please register or login to hide this ad.

03-31-2005, 08:52 PM	#2
izzodesh Spec C Club Car: 05' STI PSM Fav Mod: Leather Interior w/ Rear Pass thru Location: NYC Posts: 1,052 Join Date: Nov 2003 Trader Rating: (4)	RE: Mitsu vs. Subaru in Norwalk, Ohio i love zaino too but nothing comes close only quick thing that is half decent is turtle wax but i only do that if i reallllllllllly dont have the time

03-31-2005, 10:13 PM	#5
*BoostJunkie* Sold My Soul For Mods Car: '05 CGM STi Fav Mod: Track Time Location: Bethesda, MD Posts: 6,454 Join Date: Jun 2004 Trader Rating: (12)	RE: Wheel Options... I second the recommendation for klasse. I use all-in-one and sealant glaze and they are the best products I have come across. I applied one coat of AIO and one coat of sealant glaze in December and when I washed my car for the first time since that detail in March, it still felt like there was a good coat of wax on it. If you really want to maintain the shine, use both klasse products once every 3-6 months, and use a carnauba wax (I like Pinnacle Souveran) once every few weeks. I guarantee you won't find a better combo than this.

04-02-2005, 09:17 PM	#11
chancers Junior STI Driver Car: 04 STi wrb Fav Mod: not even a radio yet Location: Texas Posts: 79 Join Date: Jan 2004 Trader Rating: (0)	waxes I use an obscure wax called Formula113 (www.formula113.tv). This stuff is truly high end. It goes on easy. Comes off easy. No powder, dust or caking in the crevices/trim (stuff dries clear). Formula113 is an organic wax(carnuba) so it won't last as long as the synthetics. But, it's awesome. Zaino...I hear this stuff is great (www.zainostore.com). I haven't used it, but will be soon (just ordered the whole kit). I wonder how labor intensive Zaino is. I've got 3 cars waiting for Zaino (2 black cars and an 04 wrb Sti). I plan on doing the whole Zaino 9 yards followed by a coat of Formula113 (combining synthetics and organics). Supposedly, the synthetics will give you that brilliant mirrorlike look while the organics will give you that warm,deep wet look. I haven't used Klasse, but plan on ordering some soon.

04-03-2005, 08:48 PM	#15
s14roller Amateur STI Driver Posts: 15 Join Date: Aug 2004 Trader Rating: (0)	For wax my fav. is probably Zymol. Works great and lasts a ton longer than Meguiar's wax. It can be found pretty easier at auto stores and walmart which is another plus. This ad is not endorsed by this member. Please register or login to hide this ad.

03-31-2005, 09:30 PM	#3
*MKIVSupra* Moderator Elite Car: 04 Subaru WRX STi, W Fav Mod: KartBoy SS & Bushings Location: Illinois Posts: 8,744 Join Date: Jan 2001 Trader Rating: (0)	I have been using Klasse for a few years now and love it. Some guys like Klasse AIO followed with some NXT. I prefer a quality carnauba wax for added depth to the color. You could just apply a coat of Klasse AIO and a coat or two of Klasse Sealant Glaze and have a nice long lasting shine. What I do though, is put on a coat of Klasse AIO, then a couple coats of Klasse Sealant Glaze, followed by a few coats of a carnauba wax, not all in one day btw. Might not be much easier than Zaino but honestly to get a good quality shine it is going to take a few different coats of stuff. One thing, after the first wash of spring this year, after a few months of no washes during the winter, I noticed the finish is still pretty smooth and slick so this year I might just stick with the carnauba wax and not bother cleaning and reaplying the Klasse products. That is one thing that has impressed me with Klasse, is how long it lasts, of course I probably apply more coats then I need to but my car looks great.

04-02-2005, 09:58 AM	#6
*MKIVSupra* Moderator Elite Car: 04 Subaru WRX STi, W Fav Mod: KartBoy SS & Bushings Location: Illinois Posts: 8,744 Join Date: Jan 2001 Trader Rating: (0)	I did the same thing. Washed in November or maybe the beginning of December and did not wash it again till March. The finish was still smooth and shiney. BTW BoosJunkie, that is the exact combo I use, Klasse and Pinnacle Souveran.

04-02-2005, 04:52 PM	#9
*MKIVSupra* Moderator Elite Car: 04 Subaru WRX STi, W Fav Mod: KartBoy SS & Bushings Location: Illinois Posts: 8,744 Join Date: Jan 2001 Trader Rating: (0)	Not a true wax like carnauba, it can melt and evaporate, which is why I use a synthetic as the base coats. My point was that everyone says how bad salt and the chemicals used during the winter on the roads are and that you need to wash it off regularly. I figured all that sitting on the finish for months would have eaten away at the wax.

04-03-2005, 10:21 AM	#12
*BoostJunkie* Sold My Soul For Mods Car: '05 CGM STi Fav Mod: Track Time Location: Bethesda, MD Posts: 6,454 Join Date: Jun 2004 Trader Rating: (12)	I buy all my products at www.autogeek.net. They have a huge selection and always get my stuff to me very quickly.

04-03-2005, 03:03 PM	#14
rodent Professional STI Racer Car: 95 GSX Location: Highlands Ranch, CO Posts: 810 Join Date: Mar 2004 Trader Rating: (4)	I'm still a big fan of Zaino. I've tried others and they don't seam to last that long. Figure to spend most of the day when you do a complete Zaino job.