Tuning Tip In - Page 4

crystal_Imprezav · 12-16-2006, 11:31 AM

I knew you couldn't hold out, haha. Mines still not in yet so it looks like I won't be getting to it until next week. Let me know what kind of tweaking you did to your tune.

daemon · 12-16-2006, 11:48 AM

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Originally Posted by WolfPlayer

So far, I have about 9 hours into this install.

Glad to know I'm not the only "slow" mofo.

WolfPlayer · 12-16-2006, 11:49 AM

I have no problem helping anyonw with this intall (key words 'helping others' and not me doing the install). The install isn't difficult (with the right tools), it is just time consuming (but, admittedly, I take my time and tweak things appropriately and I wanted to reuse my dual catchcan setup, etc). I did it this weekend because of the weather. I don't like working in the cold - lol.

THE recommended tool is a grinder (with a grinding wheel and cutoff discs). A dremel has no right to be involved in this install (seriously). I threw off A LOT of sparks last night doing the appropiate cutting for the FMIC. Make sure to have paint. 2 coats of paint everywhere you cut. Doing the cutting and mounting the core is the easy part. Routing the pipes (ironically, the topside pipes, seems to be more of a WTF - lol). But, it all fits AND fits pretty good. Seems like I spent a lot of time configuring the t-bolt clamps at the correct angles, etc. Don't do this install unless you have t-bolts, IMHO.

Like I said, I haven't done any of the cover/splash gaurd cutting yet. I'll probably start that in an hour or 2. I did start the car and let it run and everything seems just fine.

t

daemon · 12-16-2006, 11:53 AM

I actually used a dremel and a power grinder. Thought the dremel worked extremely well for the basic hacks (as long as you use the reinforced cutting wheels), followed up by the grinder. Funny thing is, I bought an air cuting wheel tool just for this job. I liked the dremel better.

WolfPlayer · 12-16-2006, 11:56 AM

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Originally Posted by daemon

I actually used a dremel and a power grinder. Thought the dremel worked extremely well for the basic hacks (as long as you use the reinforced cutting wheels), followed up by the grinder. Funny thing is, I bought an air cuting wheel tool just for this job. I liked the dremel better.

Wow

I have an air cutoff wheel too but my tank just isn't big enough. I used a cutoff wheel on the grinder. It was like chopping through butter (seriously, almost like butter). I know a dremel with the correct wheels would work (I've used those to cut metal before) ... but man that must have taken some time. The cutoff wheel managed to make all the cuts in like 5 minutes or so. Then I spent another 5 minutes with the grinding wheel cleaning things up.

t

daemon · 12-16-2006, 12:15 PM

Might have taken me 10 minutes.

But yeah, a cutoff wheel on the grinder would be best. But the dremel really isn't as bad as you might think. I was surprised myself how fast I cut the frame with it.

WolfPlayer · 12-16-2006, 07:12 PM

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Originally Posted by daemon

Might have taken me 10 minutes.

But yeah, a cutoff wheel on the grinder would be best. But the dremel really isn't as bad as you might think. I was surprised myself how fast I cut the frame with it.

Well - huge props to the Dremel. I used that to cut up the bumper cover. I tried a bunch of other things but that ended up being the easiest way. So, I take back what I said about the Dremel

I can't imagine doing this install without it.

Everything is done. I just haven't driven it yet. Wow, that took forever. Total time was about 14 hours by myself, learning as I go, etc. I did a LOT of careful cutting and didn't just rip through it. I removed the entire black portion of the bumper cover. I also cut up the splash guards so that they fit (used shop scissors for this). The I/C sprayer has been rerouted to the front of the car and I tee'd it and installed another jet. I also installed 2 check valves

Weeeeeeeeeee. In addition, I removed the stock I/C splitter.

BIG thanks to Daemon for the idea on using door edge gaurd on the edge of the bumper cover where it was cut. WOW. What a difference.

The 2 things that I have left to do is to permanently mount the 2 spray nozzles and wrap the hot charge pipe with my Thermo-tec cool tube. I'll do that in later, much later. I'm too exhausted to worry about it now.

I'll give it a test drive tomorrow when it's light out, and when I don't have a couple beers in me

t

04stiguy · 05-06-2007, 11:29 PM

Bump for any new-found tip-in findings...

Anyone have luck with rescaling?

WolfPlayer · 05-07-2007, 03:33 AM

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Originally Posted by 04stiguy

Bump for any new-found tip-in findings...

Anyone have luck with rescaling?

I'm actually running a rescaled map to give more resolution down low and to have values that make more visible sense. Here is the current map that I am running (with the 740 Nismos and the 70mm APS MAF and FMIC). I would NOT suggest running these values with a stock MAF/injectors combo. Rather, use this map as an example of rescaling.

Note: These are not StreetTUNER values. They are Enginuity Values. IIRC, StreetTUNER values are 1/4 (25%) of values in Enginuity.

t

04stiguy · 05-07-2007, 10:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by WolfPlayer

I'm actually running a rescaled map to give more resolution down low and to have values that make more visible sense. Here is the current map that I am running (with the 740 Nismos and the 70mm APS MAF and FMIC). I would NOT suggest running these values with a stock MAF/injectors combo. Rather, use this map as an example of rescaling.

Note: These are not StreetTUNER values. They are Enginuity Values. IIRC, StreetTUNER values are 1/4 (25%) of values in Enginuity.

t

Thanks. What does the stock curve look like in Enginuity? My tip-in issue is at very small throttle openings.

WolfPlayer · 05-07-2007, 01:28 PM

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Originally Posted by 04stiguy

Thanks. What does the stock curve look like in Enginuity? My tip-in issue is at very small throttle openings.

The stock curve in enginuity would like just like the StreetTUNER curve ... but every value multiplied by 4.

What is happening at small throttle openings that leads you to believe you have a tip-in issue?

t

04stiguy · 05-07-2007, 01:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by WolfPlayer

The stock curve in enginuity would like just like the StreetTUNER curve ... but every value multiplied by 4.

What is happening at small throttle openings that leads you to believe you have a tip-in issue?

t

Ok, I was just trying to get a confimation of the 25% since you preceded it with "IIRC"....

STFT's pop up for a split second when you touch the throttle and you can feel an ever so slight hesitation. I can live with it if need be, and most people would not notice it. Just want it to be 100% if possible.

I bumped up the low end by 10-20% and didnt seem to notice a change.

WolfPlayer · 05-07-2007, 02:01 PM

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Originally Posted by 04stiguy

I bumped up the low end by 10-20% and didnt seem to notice a change.

1) Do the STFTs still jump up as much?
2) What do the AFRs look like on throttle crack?

t

04stiguy · 05-07-2007, 02:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by WolfPlayer

1) Do the STFTs still jump up as much?
2) What do the AFRs look like on throttle crack?

t

1)YES
2)16-18:1 for an instant

12-16-2006, 11:31 AM	#46
crystal_Imprezav Spec C Club Car: Slow 05 STi Fav Mod: Loping Idle Location: Chewy's Garage Posts: 1,878 Join Date: Mar 2005 Trader Rating: (12)	I knew you couldn't hold out, haha. Mines still not in yet so it looks like I won't be getting to it until next week. Let me know what kind of tweaking you did to your tune. This ad is not endorsed by this member. Please register or login to hide this ad.

05-06-2007, 11:29 PM	#53
04stiguy Senior STI Driver Car: '05 STi Fav Mod: Cusco Zero 2R's Posts: 336 Join Date: Jun 2004 Trader Rating: (0)	Re: Tuning Tip In Bump for any new-found tip-in findings... Anyone have luck with rescaling?

12-16-2006, 11:49 AM	#48
WolfPlayer Moderator & ECU Tech Car: 05 CGM STI Fav Mod: mo boostaz Location: Fredneck, MD Posts: 3,703 Join Date: Jun 2004 Trader Rating: (6)	I have no problem helping anyonw with this intall (key words 'helping others' and not me doing the install). The install isn't difficult (with the right tools), it is just time consuming (but, admittedly, I take my time and tweak things appropriately and I wanted to reuse my dual catchcan setup, etc). I did it this weekend because of the weather. I don't like working in the cold - lol. THE recommended tool is a grinder (with a grinding wheel and cutoff discs). A dremel has no right to be involved in this install (seriously). I threw off A LOT of sparks last night doing the appropiate cutting for the FMIC. Make sure to have paint. 2 coats of paint everywhere you cut. Doing the cutting and mounting the core is the easy part. Routing the pipes (ironically, the topside pipes, seems to be more of a WTF - lol). But, it all fits AND fits pretty good. Seems like I spent a lot of time configuring the t-bolt clamps at the correct angles, etc. Don't do this install unless you have t-bolts, IMHO. Like I said, I haven't done any of the cover/splash gaurd cutting yet. I'll probably start that in an hour or 2. I did start the car and let it run and everything seems just fine. t

12-16-2006, 11:53 AM	#49
daemon The Next Petter Solberg Car: 2004 STi Location: Florida Posts: 865 Join Date: Feb 2004 Trader Rating: (0)	I actually used a dremel and a power grinder. Thought the dremel worked extremely well for the basic hacks (as long as you use the reinforced cutting wheels), followed up by the grinder. Funny thing is, I bought an air cuting wheel tool just for this job. I liked the dremel better.

12-16-2006, 12:15 PM	#51
daemon The Next Petter Solberg Car: 2004 STi Location: Florida Posts: 865 Join Date: Feb 2004 Trader Rating: (0)	Might have taken me 10 minutes. But yeah, a cutoff wheel on the grinder would be best. But the dremel really isn't as bad as you might think. I was surprised myself how fast I cut the frame with it.