[WolfPlayer]

Originally Posted by jaygoesfast

I've been copy-pasting all of the maps into MS Excel so I can rescale them for a higher Load. The primary fuel map is cake. The 0.25, 0.4, and 0.55 load columns contain the same values, so you can just remove 0.4 and slide everything over without any negative impact on the map. The dynamic advance maps are also the same, but primary ignition looks like it will be tricky.

I'm rescaling the v1.10 stage 2 base map, I will post the map and results when I am done.

Hahahha, too funny. I just finished completely rescaling a Cobb 1.10 Stage 2 Map. Here is a pic of the primary fuel so that you can see what load factors I used. Since I can hit about 3.1 on a stock Cobb map I have a 3.10 load column. Also, for safety I have one column higher than 3.10 to cover situations that will go beyond 3.10 unpredictably (boost creep, maybe a really cold day, maybe way below sea level, etc). IMHO, you should have one protection column preceded by a column having a load value that equals to or is slightly larger than your normal max load.



I have this base map completely done with everything converted (fuel, ignition, all dynamic advance maps, etc) and the correct LINEAR INTERPOLATION done. Check my post on Cobb's General streettuner forum about linear interpolation .... hmmm ... maybe I'll crosspost it here ...

http://www.wrxforum.com/cgi-bin/ulti...;f=12;t=000222

NOTES:
1) I may decide to decrease the LAST column to 3.25. Depends on some more research that I am doing. EDIT: I actually rescaled it to 3.30.
2) This is a STOCK map with rescaling and linear interpolation. Nothing has been tuned on my part. Again, stock Cobb values or interpolated values using real linear interpolation and not Cobb's interpolation.
3) For right now 2.8, 3.1, and 3.4 contain the same values as the original 2.75 load column.

t

[jays05]

Haha, mine is done now too with the exception of ignition timing, I think I will leave that one alone and build some extra safety into the dynamic advance maps.

I might even try it tonight, I was going to flash the v1.10 base anyways to get the new closed loop delay settings.

[daemon]

Holy cow. I had assumed the interpolation was done they way you describe it should be as opposed to the way you say they are doing it. I guess I should have done a few calculations of my own before making those assumptions. Darn assumptions. Always causing problems.

[TurboQueef]

Originally Posted by WolfPlayer

I have this base map completely done with everything converted (fuel, ignition, all dynamic advance maps, etc) and the correct LINEAR INTERPOLATION done.

Hi Tim,

What do you think about sharing the improved base map? My ST delivery was delayed but I expect it tomorrow.. I would like to start with your map instead of the "stock" one... what do u think???

[TurboQueef]

Originally Posted by daemon

And, fwiw, if either of them dropped that quickly after a run, I personally wouldn't go tricking it back to max for the next run. It adjusts for a reason. If you find it adjusts unnecissarily, then fix the tune, don't go messing with the learning system itself.

Good points... thanks

[jays05]

I got my new rescaled map running on the car tonight. Everything seems normal. It's odd though, I thought the only way you could rescale was by flashing the base map. I flashed the new map as the base map with my AP and it did not update any of the tables that I had rescaled. I had to load up ST, go into live tuning, and load the base map from ST to get it to stick.

[WolfPlayer]

Jay,

Let's carry this conversation over to a new thread I just created

I mentioned this problem ... umm feature ... in a previous thread. Flashing a base map does not overwrite any realtime info. If you want a complete reflash you need to flash the basemap and then upload a realtime version of the basemap you just flashed.

Cool deal on the rescaling working for you. BTW, did you rescale a STOCK Cobb Stage 2 map or did you rescale your modified map? I'm thinking of putting together a website where we can upload and download our maps (along with a description). Who knows ... maybe I'll get this done today and we can put our maps out there for others.

t

[drfrink24]

Originally Posted by WolfPlayer

The values I have seen others use for TOTAL IGNITION TIMING are 18 at 4000rpms, 22 at 5000rpms, 24 at 6000, and 28 at 6800.

Wolf,

Quick question.. I'm looking at some logging from a few weeks ago (low humidity, 55 degrees) and I'm seeing 20/22/24/30 (varys). This is the v1.04 stage2 basemap, of course, 100% throttle.

Are the values you recommend starting points, or, ending? I find it hard to beleive that cobbs shelf maps already are more aggressive than this.

[WRX_XB9R]

My ST and LC-1 arrived today. After install tonight I will join the ranks of ST noobs.

[cnstman]

does the lc-1 come with the data log cable?

[WolfPlayer]

The LC-1 does come with the DataLog cable. Check out my pics here:
http://www.bescaredracing.com/sti/wideband/innovate/

[WolfPlayer]

Originally Posted by drfrink24

Wolf,

Quick question.. I'm looking at some logging from a few weeks ago (low humidity, 55 degrees) and I'm seeing 20/22/24/30 (varys). This is the v1.04 stage2 basemap, of course, 100% throttle.

Are the values you recommend starting points, or, ending? I find it hard to beleive that cobbs shelf maps already are more aggressive than this.

These are starting points for dialing in a static map. Yes, you are right, the stock map is capable of slightly more ... but, that is very optimistic. Most people get less and this OEM timing is usually very erratic. I had my original map tuned in to slightly more aggressive timing than what was mentioned above. I started my mapping over from scratch and will be approaching the timing again. I'll post after that is done ... but, it will be a little while cause I am pretty busy right now.

t

[STLSTI]

WolfPlayer, I have a question about your tuning guide. But first I have to thanks you for taking the time to write this guide thus opening the tuning door to us NOOBS, again thanks. In your guide with reference to boost you say most tuners set the target boost first and then use 75% WDC high across the board. Do you mean the the last vertical row or max TP or the whole map from 0 TP to 80 TP.

Thanks,
Marcos
Super Noob

[WolfPlayer]

First, for those reading this thread, I'd really like to update the original article because I wrote it 1.5ys ago. That's a long time.

Second, to answer your specific question, I was referring to the last vertical row; namely, the 80% throttle column. IN NO WAY would you want to set the whole table to 75%.

t

Originally Posted by STLSTI

WolfPlayer, I have a question about your tuning guide. But first I have to thanks you for taking the time to write this guide thus opening the tuning door to us NOOBS, again thanks. In your guide with reference to boost you say most tuners set the target boost first and then use 75% WDC high across the board. Do you mean the the last vertical row or max TP or the whole map from 0 TP to 80 TP.

Thanks,
Marcos
Super Noob

[STLSTI]

Thanks Wolf, that's what I thought.