[daemon]

Originally Posted by west005

You think most tuners can tune the ST?

The concepts are all the same, so it would just be a matter of familiarity with the software interface. I'm not sure I'd want to pay by the hour for the first time a tuner uses a new system. But given a bit of time, I'm sure any good tuner could whip out ST maps.

[12SecSTI]

sharing maps? thats like sharing needles.... it really shouldnt be done... besides most people making these maps have to make a living selling them, so i highly doubt any reputable tuner is going to post.... besides every car is different, different areas (elevation), different boost...

[Neffarious]

I ahve to disagree here. A shared map should nto be the end all final tune, but it can give you a muhc better starting point than stage I or II Then go tweak the details (elevation factors, temperature etc) yourself wiht a wideband and/or a dyno.

[12SecSTI]

that is why they give you a stage 2 basemap, that is a good safe way to start. If you need someone else to give you a good "starting point" then you shouldn't be messing with the tuner... basically what i am saying is be careful. the tuner is a very powerful program, you can really screw your car up if you dont know what you are doing

[RedskinSti]

Anyone know any good books to read to learn how to tune?

[keyser_soze]

Originally Posted by BruceChapman

i'm not sure st is up to what youre asking of it. pro tuner might be different.

Large turbos can be tuned with ST/Pro-T/EcuTEK/reflash-method. I-Speed GT35-R 500+WHP @30 psi tune along with other large name tuners are testament to this. It is not simple as you have to use a larger MAF tube and the factory MAF sensor; but it can be done if you know what you are doing. Of course MAP based system would definitely be easier in this case. It is true that you don't have access to all the maps in the ECU in ST; however you do have access to what is necessary to get the job done. If you disagree please let me know what map/table that is necessary to tune is missing here (available in Pro-Tuner/EcuTEK and not available in ST)?

^^^^^ Above statement is just my personal opinion. It maybe wrong/incorrect and it is with good taste not to contradict and/or argue but rather have intelligent conversation for better education of all.