Axis Power Racing - Stage III Engine - Page 3

Muffnbluff · 07-10-2007, 12:01 PM

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Originally Posted by 520hpSTi

Getting forged rods and pistons do not increase power.

Heard ya the first time Amit.

***520*** · 07-10-2007, 12:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Muffnbluff

Heard ya the first time Amit.

Well apparently the guy above me didnt

Muffnbluff · 07-10-2007, 02:08 PM

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Originally Posted by 520hpSTi

Well apparently the guy above me didnt

Read closer my man...

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Originally Posted by gohrsepwr

yeah the internals are in support of the cams/headwork and everything that adds power

Regardless...I'll throw my $.02 again on how knowledgeable Ron at Axis is and that he does quality work second to none.

***520*** · 07-10-2007, 02:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Muffnbluff

Read closer my man...

Regardless...I'll throw my $.02 again on how knowledgeable Ron at Axis is and that he does quality work second to none.

reading pwns me

But yes, if i had to do it all over again, i would have ron build my motor no doubt!

SilverSurfer · 07-10-2007, 03:42 PM

Ron really knows his stuff. I wouldn't have anybody else do my engine build.

This was a great engine. I really would have liked to keep the car and try to make some crazy power with an even bigger turbo. It wasn't a money thing that made me sell it. It was a time thing. We have an 18 month old boy and we will be having another kid soon. I need a reliable daily driver and not a project car. Hence the sale of the MY04 and the purchase of the MY07. Mods will be minimal on the MY07.

caballero_sti · 07-10-2007, 11:50 PM

I thought Axis use Pauter rods on they block? Anyway Axis

SilverSurfer · 07-11-2007, 02:38 AM

Normally, Pauter rods are used on his blocks. He does offer the option of using Oliver rods too though. I chose Oliver rods because they are just as strong/good as Pauter rods, but Oliver rods are lighter.

Jelphree · 07-11-2007, 07:11 AM

Did you have your heads upgraded with the AXIS Stage 3 block? I've been reading up on short blocks and see many positive feedbacks from AXIS. The Stage 3 block is what I'm looking at.

SilverSurfer · 07-11-2007, 08:21 AM

No significant head work. I only had upgraded valve springs and a mild three angle valve port.

Axis Power Racing stg III engine
Built EJ257
-CP forged pistons with Swain Tech coat
-Oliver forged rods
-Clevite rod bearings
-Axis modified crank balanced/blueprinted with 8500 RPM rev limit
-ARP head studs
-Kelford cams
-STi RA valvesprings
-OEM STi heads & head gaskets
-OEM STi sleeves

Jelphree · 07-11-2007, 03:23 PM

Very nice. I may have to used your build as a reference

Did you rev it up till 8500 or what your tuner recommended?

SilverSurfer · 07-11-2007, 05:06 PM

I revved to 8K a couple times right after breakin when I was only running wg spring pressure (1 bar). The engine was nice and SMOOTH even up that high.

Once I got it tuned at Buschur the rev limit was set at 7200. On the next planned tune we were going to set the limiter at 8200. I sold it before that tune though.

If I ever get a built engine again it will be a replica of this one. This engine with a twin scroll GT30R or GT35R would be unreal...

Between the lighter pistons, rods, and the lighter clutch/flywheel I was using, this thing revved alot quicker than stock. It was awesome.

Jelphree · 07-11-2007, 05:30 PM

I am planning to do a similar set-up, but with the Full_Race GT30R kit. Twin scroll goodness

. I also want to add the CF Driveshaft.

I've toyed with the idea of the AXIS stage 3 + Cosworth heads, because I don't know of a reputable mechanic/machinist that can work on the stock heads. Shoot, injection is still in the picture.

Thanks for the info. It's helping me plan for the future....waaay future. LOL.

deathinacan · 07-12-2007, 12:09 AM

^^^

just got a used stage 3 - picked it up for 1800. I'm having it torn down, 1 piston/rod replaced, and re-honed...

Wish we could get an update on how mileage effects the engine ride... sounds like a rock solid build - +1 for Ron and Axis, he's been really helpful with replying to my emails and answering questions regarding the block.

jelphree - I'm considering doing the exact same thing with the heads - either the cosworth or cobb... I'm still waiting on someone to host a suby 'head flow' competition... - the turbo I'm pairing up with the engine will be a variant of the CP32R with a custom up-pipe/downpipe combo. Everything's laid out ready to install, just waiting to return from Iraq!!! haha.

----If you know if the current owner of the STi this thread is based on, could you forward him this link? thanks

kory

SilverSurfer · 07-12-2007, 04:27 AM

I might send him a PM and ask him how the car is doing...

With proper tuning and maintenance, the engine should hold up a very long time. This is one of the first questions I asked Ron before deciding what block I wanted. I was fearful that a built engine might only last 20K - 30K miles. He indicated that his stg III could go 100K or more, just like an OEM engine, if it was maintained properly, tuned properly, and used on a daily driver (so in other words not full out power constantly like a race engine - obviously those don't last 100K miles since they are stressed so badly). So with DD and an occasional track day the engine should last quite a while.

Just letting you know in case you wanted to weigh pros/cons of one more shop to Cobb and Cosworth. Axis does headwork too. He can do pretty much anything.

Kory, so what turbo did you settle on exactly? Is it the exact turbo they offer with their kit (straight up GT32 I think) or did you customize it with a larger compressor wheel?

07-10-2007, 03:42 PM	#35
SilverSurfer Professional STI Racer Car: 2002 WRX MBP Fav Mod: raw carbon fiber Location: Bloomington, IL Posts: 736 Join Date: Oct 2004 Trader Rating: (5)	Re: Axis Power Racing - Stage III Engine Ron really knows his stuff. I wouldn't have anybody else do my engine build. This was a great engine. I really would have liked to keep the car and try to make some crazy power with an even bigger turbo. It wasn't a money thing that made me sell it. It was a time thing. We have an 18 month old boy and we will be having another kid soon. I need a reliable daily driver and not a project car. Hence the sale of the MY04 and the purchase of the MY07. Mods will be minimal on the MY07. Last edited by SilverSurfer : 07-10-2007 at 03:45 PM.

07-10-2007, 11:50 PM	#36
caballero_sti STI Driver Car: 05 STi Fav Mod: GT35R Location: Sincity Posts: 285 Join Date: Sep 2006 Trader Rating: (1)	Re: Axis Power Racing - Stage III Engine I thought Axis use Pauter rods on they block? Anyway Axis

07-11-2007, 02:38 AM	#37
SilverSurfer Professional STI Racer Car: 2002 WRX MBP Fav Mod: raw carbon fiber Location: Bloomington, IL Posts: 736 Join Date: Oct 2004 Trader Rating: (5)	Re: Axis Power Racing - Stage III Engine Normally, Pauter rods are used on his blocks. He does offer the option of using Oliver rods too though. I chose Oliver rods because they are just as strong/good as Pauter rods, but Oliver rods are lighter.

07-11-2007, 07:11 AM	#38
Jelphree Junior STI Driver Car: 05 Aspen White STi Fav Mod: 04 WRX -> 05 STi Location: 562 Posts: 116 Join Date: May 2003 Trader Rating: (1)	Re: Axis Power Racing - Stage III Engine Did you have your heads upgraded with the AXIS Stage 3 block? I've been reading up on short blocks and see many positive feedbacks from AXIS. The Stage 3 block is what I'm looking at.

07-11-2007, 08:21 AM	#39
SilverSurfer Professional STI Racer Car: 2002 WRX MBP Fav Mod: raw carbon fiber Location: Bloomington, IL Posts: 736 Join Date: Oct 2004 Trader Rating: (5)	Re: Axis Power Racing - Stage III Engine No significant head work. I only had upgraded valve springs and a mild three angle valve port. Axis Power Racing stg III engine Built EJ257 -CP forged pistons with Swain Tech coat -Oliver forged rods -Clevite rod bearings -Axis modified crank balanced/blueprinted with 8500 RPM rev limit -ARP head studs -Kelford cams -STi RA valvesprings -OEM STi heads & head gaskets -OEM STi sleeves

07-11-2007, 03:23 PM	#40
Jelphree Junior STI Driver Car: 05 Aspen White STi Fav Mod: 04 WRX -> 05 STi Location: 562 Posts: 116 Join Date: May 2003 Trader Rating: (1)	Re: Axis Power Racing - Stage III Engine Very nice. I may have to used your build as a reference Did you rev it up till 8500 or what your tuner recommended?

07-11-2007, 05:06 PM	#41
SilverSurfer Professional STI Racer Car: 2002 WRX MBP Fav Mod: raw carbon fiber Location: Bloomington, IL Posts: 736 Join Date: Oct 2004 Trader Rating: (5)	Re: Axis Power Racing - Stage III Engine I revved to 8K a couple times right after breakin when I was only running wg spring pressure (1 bar). The engine was nice and SMOOTH even up that high. Once I got it tuned at Buschur the rev limit was set at 7200. On the next planned tune we were going to set the limiter at 8200. I sold it before that tune though. If I ever get a built engine again it will be a replica of this one. This engine with a twin scroll GT30R or GT35R would be unreal... Between the lighter pistons, rods, and the lighter clutch/flywheel I was using, this thing revved alot quicker than stock. It was awesome. Last edited by SilverSurfer : 07-11-2007 at 05:13 PM.

07-11-2007, 05:30 PM	#42
Jelphree Junior STI Driver Car: 05 Aspen White STi Fav Mod: 04 WRX -> 05 STi Location: 562 Posts: 116 Join Date: May 2003 Trader Rating: (1)	Re: Axis Power Racing - Stage III Engine I am planning to do a similar set-up, but with the Full_Race GT30R kit. Twin scroll goodness . I also want to add the CF Driveshaft. I've toyed with the idea of the AXIS stage 3 + Cosworth heads, because I don't know of a reputable mechanic/machinist that can work on the stock heads. Shoot, injection is still in the picture. Thanks for the info. It's helping me plan for the future....waaay future. LOL. Last edited by Jelphree : 07-11-2007 at 05:35 PM.

07-12-2007, 12:09 AM	#43
deathinacan Amateur STI Driver Car: 2004 APR WB STi Posts: 8 Join Date: Nov 2005 Trader Rating: (0)	Re: Axis Power Racing - Stage III Engine ^^^ just got a used stage 3 - picked it up for 1800. I'm having it torn down, 1 piston/rod replaced, and re-honed... Wish we could get an update on how mileage effects the engine ride... sounds like a rock solid build - +1 for Ron and Axis, he's been really helpful with replying to my emails and answering questions regarding the block. jelphree - I'm considering doing the exact same thing with the heads - either the cosworth or cobb... I'm still waiting on someone to host a suby 'head flow' competition... - the turbo I'm pairing up with the engine will be a variant of the CP32R with a custom up-pipe/downpipe combo. Everything's laid out ready to install, just waiting to return from Iraq!!! haha. ----If you know if the current owner of the STi this thread is based on, could you forward him this link? thanks kory

07-12-2007, 04:27 AM	#44
SilverSurfer Professional STI Racer Car: 2002 WRX MBP Fav Mod: raw carbon fiber Location: Bloomington, IL Posts: 736 Join Date: Oct 2004 Trader Rating: (5)	Re: Axis Power Racing - Stage III Engine I might send him a PM and ask him how the car is doing... With proper tuning and maintenance, the engine should hold up a very long time. This is one of the first questions I asked Ron before deciding what block I wanted. I was fearful that a built engine might only last 20K - 30K miles. He indicated that his stg III could go 100K or more, just like an OEM engine, if it was maintained properly, tuned properly, and used on a daily driver (so in other words not full out power constantly like a race engine - obviously those don't last 100K miles since they are stressed so badly). So with DD and an occasional track day the engine should last quite a while. Just letting you know in case you wanted to weigh pros/cons of one more shop to Cobb and Cosworth. Axis does headwork too. He can do pretty much anything. Kory, so what turbo did you settle on exactly? Is it the exact turbo they offer with their kit (straight up GT32 I think) or did you customize it with a larger compressor wheel? This ad is not endorsed by this member. Please register or login to hide this ad. Last edited by SilverSurfer : 07-12-2007 at 04:31 AM.