short block with rotated kit - Page 3

***Neanderthal Racing*** · 07-15-2008, 07:42 PM

edited due to humor gone amuck. my apologies.

07 Flt4bxr · 07-15-2008, 07:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Neanderthal Racing

what language is that and what third world school system taught it to you?

(is that too harsh?)

im on my cell phone at work...so i the keys dont always pres down or my thumbs hit more than one key ect...
...wut would be harsh is replying to my post without any imput what so ever that would help my sisuation, and having complete disregaurd to the information i requestion where as i didnt even invite your specific opinon on grammer or any relation to this thread.
(too harsh?)

***Neanderthal Racing*** · 07-15-2008, 08:05 PM

i hope you know i'm just kidding. i don't do text messaging exactly because everything i wrote would look like what you wrote.

funSTi · 07-15-2008, 08:19 PM

Call Bill, he'll tell you what his recomendations are. He knows his stuff about tuning, I mean my car was tuned by him and I love it. It really depends how much power your looking to get. You could get 370 whp and have the block last a good 4-5 seasons, also depensing how you drive it.

07 Flt4bxr · 07-15-2008, 08:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Neanderthal Racing

i'm sorry, without providing me with some clue as to what language youre actually speaking, i have no way of understanding you. let's try this...

{{{speaking 10 times louder than a normal conversation as if talking louder will help}}}

how....do....you....like....a.m.e.r.i.c.a?

dude wut the hell are u talkin about....now ur just not makin sence...but enough of that. im not going to clutte my own thread with ranting

07 Flt4bxr · 07-15-2008, 08:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by funSTi

Call Bill, he'll tell you what his recomendations are. He knows his stuff about tuning, I mean my car was tuned by him and I love it. It really depends how much power your looking to get. You could get 370 whp and have the block last a good 4-5 seasons, also depensing how you drive it.

ya i am a stage 2 tuned by bill as well and i love how my car is. i know its all about tunning wen it comes to power wih longjevtity ( <-- spelling?) but ya ill talk to bill and the other guys more and moe as it gets closer to install and tune time....i also found another thread about an hour ago or so about uel headers vs grimmspeed p&p with coating.

modaddict · 07-16-2008, 06:22 AM

My best suggestion is talk to the tuner and see what they like. As about overall power, peak power, and power band.

see what he says.

07 Flt4bxr · 07-16-2008, 01:49 PM

ok so i know wut im going to do...im doing grimmspeed port and polish stock manifold and coating, and the cp UP and DP come coated as well... should i heat wrap the UP and DP also?

***Neanderthal Racing*** · 07-16-2008, 01:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 07 Flt4bxr

ok so i know wut im going to do...im doing grimmspeed port and polish stock manifold and coating, and the cp UP and DP come coated as well... should i heat wrap the UP and DP also?

one or the other. NEVER do both.

07 Flt4bxr · 07-16-2008, 01:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Neanderthal Racing

one or the other. NEVER do both.

ok thnx..thats wut i needed to know

t2couger · 07-17-2008, 07:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Neanderthal Racing

one or the other. NEVER do both.

just wondering why not both??

***Neanderthal Racing*** · 07-17-2008, 08:58 AM

Originally Posted by Neanderthal Racing

one or the other. NEVER do both.

Quote:

Originally Posted by t2couger

just wondering why not both??

according to jeremy at crucial racing, if you use both you are retaining too much heat and running an increased risk of cracking.

limited777 · 08-31-2008, 07:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CicioSTi

Depending on how much power you are looking for on the 30r the other option is don't mess with it at all. Run the stock bottom end. 30r is about a 400-425hp turbo on pump, if thats all your planning on making then don't open the motor at all, there is no need. I ran 400+hp on my stock block for 30k with no issues at all.

Its ALL about the tune!

Just my .02

Only thing I can say to that is you have to also think 400hp on what dyno. 400 on a mustang is going to be pushing the motor pretty dam hard. As well you are running an 07 which have HORRIBLE pistons, I should know I have a 30R that was making 385 on a dynopack and one of my piston rings went within 2 weeks, and its not just my car I know 4 other people this has happened to, All different components and different tuners. If your running an 04-06 the pistons havn't been a problem like they have on the 07's.

Granted theres many people that haven't had problems. I dont blame my piston issue on anyone but the car. I know my tuner didn't push my tune. So I am replacing my pistons with Cosworth as well I figure I am going to do the valves, springs/retainers, cams, bearings, headstuds, ect. while I am at it. I have thought about going with bigger pistons but not sure if its worth it if I am still going to be running stock rods. I have been trying to figure out if the factory rods are any good or what they can hold up to.

I agree with Cicio on most cars but I just think that the 07s are extremely temperamental and I feel any tuner would agree.

***BANKAI*** · 08-31-2008, 07:21 PM

i got some CP pistons in mine... it's been working great for the last 6-7k miles with my GT35r @23 psi!

modaddict · 08-31-2008, 07:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by limited777

Only thing I can say to that is you have to also think 400hp on what dyno. 400 on a mustang is going to be pushing the motor pretty dam hard. As well you are running an 07 which have HORRIBLE pistons, I should know I have a 30R that was making 385 on a dynopack and one of my piston rings went within 2 weeks, and its not just my car I know 4 other people this has happened to, All different components and different tuners. If your running an 04-06 the pistons havn't been a problem like they have on the 07's.

Granted theres many people that haven't had problems. I dont blame my piston issue on anyone but the car. I know my tuner didn't push my tune. So I am replacing my pistons with Cosworth as well I figure I am going to do the valves, springs/retainers, cams, bearings, headstuds, ect. while I am at it. I have thought about going with bigger pistons but not sure if its worth it if I am still going to be running stock rods. I have been trying to figure out if the factory rods are any good or what they can hold up to.

I agree with Cicio on most cars but I just think that the 07s are extremely temperamental and I feel any tuner would agree.

Hate to break it to you but 04-07 have the exact same pistons.

it's the tuning that breaks them.

07-15-2008, 07:42 PM	#31
*Neanderthal Racing* GT R US Car: CUTN EDG project Fav Mod: $20. mudflaps from auto zone Location: my cave Posts: 5,851 Join Date: Dec 2003 Trader Rating: (1)	Re: short block with rotated kit edited due to humor gone amuck. my apologies. This ad is not endorsed by this member. Please register or login to hide this ad. Last edited by Neanderthal Racing : 07-15-2008 at 08:41 PM.

07-15-2008, 08:05 PM	#33
*Neanderthal Racing* GT R US Car: CUTN EDG project Fav Mod: $20. mudflaps from auto zone Location: my cave Posts: 5,851 Join Date: Dec 2003 Trader Rating: (1)	Re: short block with rotated kit i hope you know i'm just kidding. i don't do text messaging exactly because everything i wrote would look like what you wrote. Last edited by Neanderthal Racing : 07-15-2008 at 08:43 PM.

07-15-2008, 08:19 PM	#34
funSTi Grassroots STI Racer Car: 07 SWP STI Fav Mod: I-SPEED/Bride ZetaIII/Tein Flex Location: Boulder,CO/Victorville,CA Posts: 519 Join Date: Aug 2007 Trader Rating: (0)	Re: short block with rotated kit Call Bill, he'll tell you what his recomendations are. He knows his stuff about tuning, I mean my car was tuned by him and I love it. It really depends how much power your looking to get. You could get 370 whp and have the block last a good 4-5 seasons, also depensing how you drive it.

07-16-2008, 06:22 AM	#37
modaddict Spec C Club Car: 04 Crawford STi Fav Mod: CP35r 440whp Posts: 2,008 Join Date: Jun 2006 Trader Rating: (3)	Re: short block with rotated kit My best suggestion is talk to the tuner and see what they like. As about overall power, peak power, and power band. see what he says.

07-16-2008, 01:49 PM	#38
07 Flt4bxr Spec C Club Car: 07 STi UGM Fav Mod: Crawford Location: sanbernardino, CA Posts: 1,164 Join Date: Sep 2007 Trader Rating: (4)	Re: short block with rotated kit ok so i know wut im going to do...im doing grimmspeed port and polish stock manifold and coating, and the cp UP and DP come coated as well... should i heat wrap the UP and DP also?

08-31-2008, 07:21 PM	#44
*BANKAI* BAMFkr Car: BAMF STI Fav Mod: My Right Foot! Location: Georgetown Posts: 973 Join Date: Jan 2008 Trader Rating: (0)	Re: short block with rotated kit i got some CP pistons in mine... it's been working great for the last 6-7k miles with my GT35r @23 psi!