Hawk HPS squeaking and squealing problems????!!

STiBoost · 04-10-2007, 08:11 PM

Hey crew, i did my brakes a couple weeks back. I went with the Hawk HPS. First, i noticed when i recieved them, they didnt come with any of that grease stuff. I said ok, replaced them, I used both shims up front with no grease when i installed them. I than took the car out and bed them. Not sure how many times i was suppose to stop hard on them but i did it quite a few times. I noticed that whenever i was in traffic an coming to a stop, the brakes would make a loud squealing noise (Very Annoying!!). I left it liek that for about 3-4 weeks thinking that it might just go away. Wrong, it didnt, i finally got so aggravated that i took the pads all apart again an reinstalled them, but just with one shim, the smallest one.This time around i bought some CRC Disc Brake quiet (red stuff) and applied it to the pad, than the shim, than the back of the shim where the piston from the caliper pushes. took the car out, I noticed at first its very quiet, but as soon as the brakes heat up , the squealing is still horribly loud. I've been reading alot about this on the forum but everyoen says that the squealign will jsut go away after time, Any suggestions??? i really hate the squealing and i don't know wether to switch pads or what. thanks guys!
-vic

jarvis210 · 04-10-2007, 08:18 PM

just wait it out i had the same problem but i lubed them up from the start and now they dont make any noise unless in reverse (which is normal)

**Turninconcepts.com** · 04-11-2007, 08:35 AM

Lube the backs. Best lube we've found to date is a high temp anti-seize.

Once you've done that get them good and hot on a break in.

jonnyboi · 04-11-2007, 09:10 AM

mine only squeek after the really really warm up, but with normal daily driving braking... they dont squeek. i just assumed that this was a common thing with HPS's from what ive read on the forum here.

xrocket21 · 04-11-2007, 10:03 AM

My Hawk HPS are the same way! i did the same as you. Installed first with shims, they squeaked, so I took them out and put the CRC Disc Brake quiet (red stuff) on the back of the pads, with no shim. they were quiet for 10 miles and now squeak really bad.

I didnt bed them in again after I took them out and put them back in though... should I?

This is really pissing me off, I hate these pads

how do you make em stop squealing!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Partysub · 04-11-2007, 10:33 AM

Once you get more miles on them they will stop. Mine were loud for about the duration of an oil change. Just smile and wave at people that look at you when you come to a slow stop and the brakes squeek.

STI Rocker · 04-11-2007, 12:15 PM

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Once you get more miles on them they will stop. Mine were loud for about the duration of an oil change.

they wont i have had my HPS's for about 7 months now and the squeakin has not gone away. oh and DO NOT take those pads to the track, after about 2 laps on a straight away with a hard braking section you will be sorry

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Just smile and wave at people that look at you when you come to a slow stop and the brakes squeek.

i have done that a couple of times and some people look at me like im driving a piece ha ha

xrocket21 · 04-11-2007, 12:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Partysub

Once you get more miles on them they will stop. Mine were loud for about the duration of an oil change. Just smile and wave at people that look at you when you come to a slow stop and the brakes squeek.

The worst is toll booths, it echos becuase of the closed in area, and tollbooth willie is right there :hs:

**Alex** · 04-11-2007, 12:38 PM

Mine are extremely noisy...but then again, I took them to the track for no real reason and destroyed them

Partysub · 04-11-2007, 02:39 PM

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Originally Posted by STI Rocker

they wont i have had my HPS's for about 7 months now and the squeakin has not gone away.

Try bedding them in again. Maybe that will help. I dont know, mine just went away.

polyol · 04-11-2007, 03:35 PM

I have Hawk HPS and I installed them with NONE of the shims that come with the stock brakes. I dont have any squeeks...

STI Rocker · 04-11-2007, 03:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Partysub

Try bedding them in again. Maybe that will help. I dont know, mine just went away.

im just going to live with it for about another 2 weeks that im going to get the pagid blues ,with SS lines and different fluid. i hear they make some noise but it is worth the trade for their performance. And i guess the HPS's annoy me cause the time at the track they heated up and faded really really quick when the stocks lasted longer than what i expected.

STiBoost · 04-11-2007, 04:44 PM

so do u guys recomend me taking off that smaller shim that i have on an just wait it out? or wait it out how it is now with that one shim in place? whats the average amount of time that i would have to wait? i see that abotu an oil change was someone's time, any others?

polyol · 04-11-2007, 05:59 PM

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Originally Posted by STiBoost

so do u guys recomend me taking off that smaller shim that i have on an just wait it out? or wait it out how it is now with that one shim in place? whats the average amount of time that i would have to wait? i see that abotu an oil change was someone's time, any others?

Yes...take out the stock shims. Ive been running for a while on mine with no squeeks, noises, anything...do yourself a favor and toss the stock shims.

STiBoost · 04-11-2007, 06:18 PM

ok and should i lube the back of the pads too? and if i should what type and brand of lube do u guys recomend?

04-10-2007, 08:11 PM	#1
STiBoost Junior STI Driver Car: 04 STi Location: ELizabeth, NJ Posts: 74 IWSTI Addict since: Nov 2006 Trader Rating: (0)	Hawk HPS squeaking and squealing problems????!! Hey crew, i did my brakes a couple weeks back. I went with the Hawk HPS. First, i noticed when i recieved them, they didnt come with any of that grease stuff. I said ok, replaced them, I used both shims up front with no grease when i installed them. I than took the car out and bed them. Not sure how many times i was suppose to stop hard on them but i did it quite a few times. I noticed that whenever i was in traffic an coming to a stop, the brakes would make a loud squealing noise (Very Annoying!!). I left it liek that for about 3-4 weeks thinking that it might just go away. Wrong, it didnt, i finally got so aggravated that i took the pads all apart again an reinstalled them, but just with one shim, the smallest one.This time around i bought some CRC Disc Brake quiet (red stuff) and applied it to the pad, than the shim, than the back of the shim where the piston from the caliper pushes. took the car out, I noticed at first its very quiet, but as soon as the brakes heat up , the squealing is still horribly loud. I've been reading alot about this on the forum but everyoen says that the squealign will jsut go away after time, Any suggestions??? i really hate the squealing and i don't know wether to switch pads or what. thanks guys! -vic This ad is not endorsed by this member. Please register or login to hide this ad.

04-11-2007, 06:18 PM	#15
STiBoost Junior STI Driver Car: 04 STi Location: ELizabeth, NJ Posts: 74 IWSTI Addict since: Nov 2006 Trader Rating: (0)	ok and should i lube the back of the pads too? and if i should what type and brand of lube do u guys recomend? This ad is not endorsed by this member. Please register or login to hide this ad.

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04-10-2007, 08:18 PM	#2
jarvis210 Senior STI Driver Car: 04 SUBARU WRX sti Fav Mod: JDM FOGS Posts: 378 IWSTI Addict since: May 2006 Trader Rating: (1)	just wait it out i had the same problem but i lubed them up from the start and now they dont make any noise unless in reverse (which is normal)

04-11-2007, 08:35 AM	#3
Turninconcepts.com Authorized Vendor Car: 04/08STI 95SVX 86E30 Posts: 5,258 IWSTI Addict since: Jul 2003 Trader Rating: (53)	Lube the backs. Best lube we've found to date is a high temp anti-seize. Once you've done that get them good and hot on a break in.

04-11-2007, 09:10 AM	#4
jonnyboi Junior STI Driver Car: 04 WRB STi Location: Canada Posts: 191 IWSTI Addict since: Oct 2006 Trader Rating: (1)	mine only squeek after the really really warm up, but with normal daily driving braking... they dont squeek. i just assumed that this was a common thing with HPS's from what ive read on the forum here.

04-11-2007, 10:03 AM	#5
xrocket21 The Next Petter Solberg Car: 2005 STI Fav Mod: Methanol Location: Boston area Posts: 926 IWSTI Addict since: Feb 2005 Trader Rating: (5)	My Hawk HPS are the same way! i did the same as you. Installed first with shims, they squeaked, so I took them out and put the CRC Disc Brake quiet (red stuff) on the back of the pads, with no shim. they were quiet for 10 miles and now squeak really bad. I didnt bed them in again after I took them out and put them back in though... should I? This is really pissing me off, I hate these pads how do you make em stop squealing!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

04-11-2007, 10:33 AM	#6
Partysub Grassroots STI Racer Car: 04 STi Fav Mod: All of them Location: Wappingers Falls, NY Posts: 505 IWSTI Addict since: Mar 2006 Trader Rating: (4)	Once you get more miles on them they will stop. Mine were loud for about the duration of an oil change. Just smile and wave at people that look at you when you come to a slow stop and the brakes squeek.

04-11-2007, 12:38 PM	#9
Alex Authorized Vendor Car: 2004.5 STi Fav Mod: Alcantara...Everything! Location: Atlanta, Ga Posts: 1,963 IWSTI Addict since: Nov 2003 Trader Rating: (11)	Mine are extremely noisy...but then again, I took them to the track for no real reason and destroyed them

04-11-2007, 03:35 PM	#11
polyol Spec C Club Car: 04 STi Fav Mod: Motor Mounts Location: Eugene Posts: 2,287 IWSTI Addict since: Oct 2004 Trader Rating: (0)	I have Hawk HPS and I installed them with NONE of the shims that come with the stock brakes. I dont have any squeeks...

04-11-2007, 04:44 PM	#13
STiBoost Junior STI Driver Car: 04 STi Location: ELizabeth, NJ Posts: 74 IWSTI Addict since: Nov 2006 Trader Rating: (0)	so do u guys recomend me taking off that smaller shim that i have on an just wait it out? or wait it out how it is now with that one shim in place? whats the average amount of time that i would have to wait? i see that abotu an oil change was someone's time, any others?