Talk me out of the Cusco Master Cylinder Brace

AnorexicSTI · 01-01-2007, 01:06 PM

All I could find was MRT (apparently hard to install, looks like it's 2 colors, and 1 part is steel (heavy!)? Cusco looks all aluminum so it looks like the way to go.

Only other one I thought worth considering is the Carbing Strut Brace with built in MC brace. I'm not a big fan of braces except the X-brace, but I wonder if the Carbing is a 3pt brace and connects to the firewall too... if it does, I think it would be worth getting.

So, my IWSTI brethen, is it Cusco or will you talk me out of it?

**Turninconcepts.com** · 01-01-2007, 05:45 PM

Cusco one is steel, and is great.

rmo55c · 01-01-2007, 07:02 PM

personally i would like to get the cusco brace soon as it would complete my brake upgrade package - about as extreme as I want to get for mostly daily street driving without going to a bigger caliper =)

AnorexicSTI · 01-01-2007, 10:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Turninconcepts.com

Cusco one is steel, and is great.

Well at least it looks aluminum and thinner than the MRT... that MRT with the 2 color red and gold color scheme looks kinda gross!

Pablo · 01-02-2007, 12:17 AM

Do these actually make a difference for daily driving ??

I don't think the firewall is as flimsy on GDB chassis as they where on the GC8

STI-Man · 01-02-2007, 12:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pablo

Do these actually make a difference for daily driving ??

I don't think the firewall is as flimsy on GDB chassis as they where on the GC8

it actually has a noticible difference.. get one..

Shemoves · 01-06-2007, 04:27 PM

I've read multiple good reviews of these

H4N · 01-06-2007, 05:44 PM

doesnt Perrin have a aluminum one?

***VSGTS14*** · 01-06-2007, 06:04 PM

yea what is the big whoop about these things?

H4N · 01-06-2007, 06:33 PM

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Originally Posted by VSGTS14

yea what is the big whoop about these things?

+1....

**Z1 Performance** · 01-07-2007, 10:29 AM

the "whoop" is that they work, plain and simple, and are easy to install.

The way the stock bracket is designed on the master, when the brakes are pressed firmly, the master moves. This movement causes a loss in overall brake "feel". The braces stop the movement, and as such, lead to more consistent brake feel.

http://www.z1auto.com/prodmore.asp?m...ng&prodid=1341

scottjua · 01-07-2007, 07:24 PM

I have one on both the WRX and the STi, and honestly on the street I couldn't tell much of a difference... but on the track it firms things up a bit for sure.

Also got both of them from Z1...

AnorexicSTI · 01-07-2007, 07:47 PM

Ok here is what it's down to...

Carbing FSB with built in MC brace
Cusco (lead runner for MC brace ONLY)
Perrin

I didn't know Perrin made one until a few days ago... their's is aluminum which is lighter but probably not as stiff. The Carbing is also Aluminum... Anybody have any thoughts on the Perrin?

scottjua · 01-07-2007, 08:49 PM

The cusco piece is made well... and the weight is negligable on such a small piece in my opinion. There's no way the cusco MCB will flex, and on an 06+ sti at least the install is super simple and should take about 10-15 mins tops for a first time install.

As far as a a FSB with built in MCB (never seen that before) I imagine it would be much more expensive than a MCB, and as far as performance gain for the buck, you're probably better off getting the cusco or similar MCB and saving the extra dough for something else other than a FSB. That is for performance/$ ratio

AnorexicSTI · 01-26-2007, 10:15 AM

Decided to kill 2 birds with 1 stone and got the Carbing 1 piece welded Al brace... the only one better would have been the Cusco 1 piece Ti (super light) with Cusco MCB (heavier)... the 2 separate Cusco pieces would be double the price of the Carbing dual function 1 piece... and with the Cusco MCB being steel and not Al, the overall weights probably would have been similar. Got it from Adam at Z1 auto.

01-01-2007, 01:06 PM	#1
AnorexicSTI Spec C Club Car: 05 WRX STI - Spec A Fav Mod: Starving my STI Location: Lightweightville, Canada Posts: 1,734 IWSTI Addict since: Sep 2006 Trader Rating: (15)	Talk me out of the Cusco Master Cylinder Brace All I could find was MRT (apparently hard to install, looks like it's 2 colors, and 1 part is steel (heavy!)? Cusco looks all aluminum so it looks like the way to go. Only other one I thought worth considering is the Carbing Strut Brace with built in MC brace. I'm not a big fan of braces except the X-brace, but I wonder if the Carbing is a 3pt brace and connects to the firewall too... if it does, I think it would be worth getting. So, my IWSTI brethen, is it Cusco or will you talk me out of it? This ad is not endorsed by this member. Please register or login to hide this ad.

01-26-2007, 10:15 AM	#15
AnorexicSTI Spec C Club Car: 05 WRX STI - Spec A Fav Mod: Starving my STI Location: Lightweightville, Canada Posts: 1,734 IWSTI Addict since: Sep 2006 Trader Rating: (15)	Decided to kill 2 birds with 1 stone and got the Carbing 1 piece welded Al brace... the only one better would have been the Cusco 1 piece Ti (super light) with Cusco MCB (heavier)... the 2 separate Cusco pieces would be double the price of the Carbing dual function 1 piece... and with the Cusco MCB being steel and not Al, the overall weights probably would have been similar. Got it from Adam at Z1 auto. This ad is not endorsed by this member. Please register or login to hide this ad.

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01-01-2007, 05:45 PM	#2
Turninconcepts.com Authorized Vendor Car: 04/08STI 95SVX 86E30 Posts: 5,258 IWSTI Addict since: Jul 2003 Trader Rating: (53)	Cusco one is steel, and is great.

01-01-2007, 07:02 PM	#3
rmo55c Silver Member Car: 05 WRB STi Fav Mod: PWT Points Location: St. Louis, MO Posts: 967 IWSTI Addict since: Dec 2004 Trader Rating: (2)	personally i would like to get the cusco brace soon as it would complete my brake upgrade package - about as extreme as I want to get for mostly daily street driving without going to a bigger caliper =)

01-02-2007, 12:17 AM	#5
Pablo Amateur STI Driver Car: 03 STI Fav Mod: More Boost !! Location: Sydney Australia Posts: 30 IWSTI Addict since: Dec 2005 Trader Rating: (0)	Do these actually make a difference for daily driving ?? I don't think the firewall is as flimsy on GDB chassis as they where on the GC8

01-06-2007, 04:27 PM	#7
Shemoves Amateur STI Driver Posts: 12 IWSTI Addict since: Mar 2006 Trader Rating: (0)	I've read multiple good reviews of these

01-06-2007, 05:44 PM	#8
H4N The Next Petter Solberg Car: 05 STi Fav Mod: EWG, T 2'S Location: Mass-hole Posts: 916 IWSTI Addict since: Mar 2005 Trader Rating: (6)	doesnt Perrin have a aluminum one?

01-06-2007, 06:04 PM	#9
*VSGTS14* Muller Chevrolet Car: 08 Chevy 2500 Diesel Fav Mod: a new 09 STi Location: Milford, NJ Posts: 10,134 IWSTI Addict since: Oct 2004 Trader Rating: (11)	yea what is the big whoop about these things?

01-07-2007, 10:29 AM	#11
Z1 Performance Authorized Vendor Location: St James, NY Posts: 1,798 IWSTI Addict since: Sep 2005 Trader Rating: (46)	the "whoop" is that they work, plain and simple, and are easy to install. The way the stock bracket is designed on the master, when the brakes are pressed firmly, the master moves. This movement causes a loss in overall brake "feel". The braces stop the movement, and as such, lead to more consistent brake feel. http://www.z1auto.com/prodmore.asp?m...ng&prodid=1341

01-07-2007, 07:24 PM	#12
scottjua Professional STI Driver Car: 06 Aspen White STi / Location: Plano, TX (Dallas) Posts: 461 IWSTI Addict since: Jan 2006 Trader Rating: (0)	I have one on both the WRX and the STi, and honestly on the street I couldn't tell much of a difference... but on the track it firms things up a bit for sure. Also got both of them from Z1...

01-07-2007, 07:47 PM	#13
AnorexicSTI Spec C Club Car: 05 WRX STI - Spec A Fav Mod: Starving my STI Location: Lightweightville, Canada Posts: 1,734 IWSTI Addict since: Sep 2006 Trader Rating: (15)	Ok here is what it's down to... Carbing FSB with built in MC brace Cusco (lead runner for MC brace ONLY) Perrin I didn't know Perrin made one until a few days ago... their's is aluminum which is lighter but probably not as stiff. The Carbing is also Aluminum... Anybody have any thoughts on the Perrin?

01-07-2007, 08:49 PM	#14
scottjua Professional STI Driver Car: 06 Aspen White STi / Location: Plano, TX (Dallas) Posts: 461 IWSTI Addict since: Jan 2006 Trader Rating: (0)	The cusco piece is made well... and the weight is negligable on such a small piece in my opinion. There's no way the cusco MCB will flex, and on an 06+ sti at least the install is super simple and should take about 10-15 mins tops for a first time install. As far as a a FSB with built in MCB (never seen that before) I imagine it would be much more expensive than a MCB, and as far as performance gain for the buck, you're probably better off getting the cusco or similar MCB and saving the extra dough for something else other than a FSB. That is for performance/$ ratio