[tjsadler]

Anyone here using either of these and care to review? (anyone not being paid to drive them) How would they hold up for occasional beginner level track day? The Yellowstuff says race/street but I am skeptical. Price is far lower than other race worthy pads though.

[EESTI]

I had the yellowstuff pads on my 2000 lincoln ls (~3600 lbs). It never saw the track, but they were absolutely quiet and had awesome initial bite, even when cold.

That makes me think that they may not really be designed for track use.

[WideOpen&Sideways]

I'm on my second set of the Redstuff Ceramic pads on my 98 Type R. I used them on both the street, and lapping days.

Overall, I really like them. Initial bite is very aggressive from cold, they get to temp quickly, and didn't fade after 10+ hot laps on a 4km road course. Rotor wear is pretty average, dust level is med-high but does not have a chemical reaction to water like the Hawk HP+. Noise is not an issue on the street if installed properly (use tons of copper grease).

The only negative thing I can say about them is that they take a while to bed properly. But when they do, be prepared! My first few laps, first time out with them nearly put my face on the windshield.

Overall a great street/track brake pad. Plus, EBC is under new ownership and all of their pad compounds have been redesigned!

[jv01]

06 sti almost 1 year with yellows on the front autox + street . very rotor friendly.

[TurboRexed]

Originally Posted by tjsadler

Anyone here using either of these and care to review? (anyone not being paid to drive them) How would they hold up for occasional beginner level track day? The Yellowstuff says race/street but I am skeptical. Price is far lower than other race worthy pads though.

I do a lot of track work with my STI, here follows a review that I gave to SOCSA.

"Over the last couple of months the local EBC guys (Quartermile) have supplied me with various pads to test for them, and since I am now a paying customer again, I though that I will give you some feedback that I have given them.

Yellow Stuff (combo race pad):
- Much better than stock, cold or warm.
- I compare them with DS2500 for feel and stopping power.
- Cheaper than stock pads.
- After four sets, no indication of eating up my DS2500 disc's.
- They last long for normal road use.
- I found that they last for about 6 track session of 8 laps (front), but thats me and my trailbraking antics most probably.

Blue Stuff (full race pad):
- Much better than stock when warm.
- Worse than stock when cold.
- Cheaper than stock.
- They will last forever if only used for normal road use.
- After one set I could see about 0.5mm of eating on my DS2500 disc's.
- They last for 24 track session of 8 laps (front), with what ever I could throw at them.
- I ran the same times with both yellows and blues.
- Because I run forced cooling ducts on the front I never knew if the 750degC work limit on Blue Stuff is applicable for our cars.

Combo Blue front and Yellow rear:
- I tried this combo, because I wanted to shift the brake balance more to the rear. I have always felt that the scoob was loose at the back under hard braking.
- With a friction factor of 0.4 in front and 0.55 at the rear the car felt more stable under hard braking (many BBK including AP does this with the calipers).
- I warped my OEM disc's at the rear in 2 sessions, which tells me I did achieve shifting more braking to the rear, replaced with EBC sports disc's at the rear and they are doing well. Also pad life on the rear is now significantly shortened.
- I did not run better times, but the car felt more stable before and on the point of turn-in.

My recommendation is yellows for everyday and occasional track, and the combo for track only culprits like me , or if you have an extra set of blues which you put on at the track and then take off again before you leave."

[tuffsti]

i use ebc yellow stuff on my audi TT and it has saved my life over and over serious almost 0 rotor wear and they dont fade when heated up IMO they get better! but there badass still cold also the dont wear as fast as almost every pad out there as for being put on an sti i have yet to find out also ebc makes the blue stuff for super uber ill make the world spin the other way cars i guesh havent found any distributor who will carry em

[tjsadler]

How is the brake dust compared to stock?

[Soup's STi]

Hey Wideopen, you mentioned that the HP+ Brake dust has a chemical reaction to water? how destructive are we talking? i just purchased a set by have yet to put them on...

[WideOpen&Sideways]

Originally Posted by Soup's STi

Hey Wideopen, you mentioned that the HP+ Brake dust has a chemical reaction to water? how destructive are we talking? i just purchased a set by have yet to put them on...

It's really bad. If you catch it right away, than you're ok, but if you were to say, track the car for a day, get the rims wet, than leave them overnight, the brake dust reacts with the water and forms a hard crust that even the best rim cleaner / elbow grease cannot penetrate. Especially bad for anyone running white rims. I've seen at least a dozen stock Type R rims ruined by the HP+. IMO there are better options out there. But once again, if you keep an eye on it, it shouldn't be that bad.