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Old 07-01-17, 08:12 PM   #1
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Default Track day pad suggestion

I have a 2017 Sti, and just signed up for a track day at Blackhawk Farms.
Looking for some suggestions for brake pads and fluid. I do about 2-5 auto-x events a season (which the stock brakes are fine for) and 1-3 track days a year.

1) do i need both front and rear?
2) do they need to be dedicated (installed/removed) for track days or can they be used as my daily driver too? What are the downsides, if any?
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Old 07-01-17, 10:29 PM   #2
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Default Re: Track day pad suggestion

1.yes
2. No. You could choose some product like winmax4 or similar. It's not a real race pad but very close.

Downside of race pad is they are noisy and much longer to warm up. Don't buy pure race pad for a road car.
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Old 07-03-17, 06:47 AM   #3
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I'm using Carbotech XP8s. I swap them at home the night before a track day. They wear awesome, but can still cook my brake fluid when they get hot enough.
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Old 07-03-17, 06:55 AM   #4
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1.yes
2. No. You could choose some product like winmax4 or similar. It's not a real race pad but very close.

Downside of race pad is they are noisy and much longer to warm up. Don't buy pure race pad for a road car.
Why not? There is no such thing as a good hybrid pad. It takes all of 20 minutes to swap pads on the STI. It's just 2 pins and a retaining clip. Hybrid pads are going to be useless after a couple consecutive hot laps.

If you want to last a full 20 minute session, you want REAL pads

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I'm using Carbotech XP8s. I swap them at home the night before a track day. They wear awesome, but can still cook my brake fluid when they get hot enough.
^This. XP8s are good. I use Project Mu Club Racers for track. Like mentioned above, it does not take much time at all to swap pads on these cars. Do it at home the night before, or do it at the track. Either way, swapping pads on these cars is super easy.
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Default Re: Track day pad suggestion

i've been using Ferodo DS2500s as an all around pad. a few notes however:

-they tend to squeal quite a bit in normal driving
-they are NOT a track pad, but for someone like me who isn't late breaking into every corner, they are fine

i have a coworker who uses Carbotech XP12s front, XP10s rear, which are awesome on track. however, they do lead to heat issues (rebuilt calipers, boiled brake fluid, etc)
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Any thoughts on the Hawk HP+?
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Do the Nannies on these cars impact track performance? On my GD a good combo has been Performance Friction front pads with Ferodo 2500/3000 rear pads and stock blanks. Or my latest front pad the Raybestos ST43 pads (obtained before price correction so $84 shipped per set).
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Do the Nannies on these cars impact track performance? On my GD a good combo has been Performance Friction front pads with Ferodo 2500/3000 rear pads and stock blanks. Or my latest front pad the Raybestos ST43 pads (obtained before price correction so $84 shipped per set).
No unless hp has been modified.
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The front torque vectoring may impact your front pad temps. Go fully disabled on the TC at your own discretion or risk.
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No unless hp has been modified.
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The front torque vectoring may impact your front pad temps. Go fully disabled on the TC at your own discretion or risk.
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