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Old 01-07-17, 08:33 AM   #1
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For following reasons:
1. Almost whole new awd system with redesigned electronic centre diff.
2.6 piston brembo brake
First time to see a 6 piston brembo installed in a sports car under 70,000usd.(only 3300lbs without spare tire!)


This is a HUGE step forward for sti...even bigger than GR to VA platform.
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Old 01-07-17, 08:36 AM   #2
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I don't know what it is, but I want it.
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Old 01-07-17, 08:43 AM   #3
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For following reasons:
1. Almost whole new awd system with redesigned electronic centre diff.
2.6 piston brembo brake
First time to see a 6 piston brembo installed in a sports car under 70,000usd.(only 3300lbs without spare tire!)


This is a HUGE step forward for sti...even bigger than GR to VA platform.
where did you get the curb weight figure from?

I agree though the 2018 has the best updates in a long time, better than when it went from GD to GR and its still the same gen! So considering these changes are made within the same gen, it is certainly the most they have done during a designated generation model by FAR! Its going to be the nicest STI to date.

I wish they would bring back the rear window GD series "Airfoil" though
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where did you get the curb weight figure from?

I agree though the 2018 has the best updates in a long time, better than when it went from GD to GR and its still the same gen! So considering these changes are made within the same gen, it is certainly the most they have done during a designated generation model by FAR! Its going to be the nicest STI to date.

I wish they would bring back the rear window GD series "Airfoil" though
Does this mean that there will be a lot of 2017's on the lot?
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For following reasons:
1. Almost whole new awd system with redesigned electronic centre diff.
2.6 piston brembo brake
First time to see a 6 piston brembo installed in a sports car under 70,000usd.(only 3300lbs without spare tire!)


This is a HUGE step forward for sti...even bigger than GR to VA platform.
As an owner of two GRs, I completely disagree. This is a minor upgrade compared to the VA chassis/sus.

And how do you know the center diff is going to make any difference at all? I bet it doesn't or is slightly worse than before. I think they are doing it to increase efficiency, not performance.

The brakes only matter if you're overheating the stock brakes and have no decent solution. They won't make the car stop any faster.
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After looking at the current information floating around, I don't see anything that big about it. They are taming it more to be comforting, it looks the same, and still has the same motor it's always had. Additionally, I bet 99% of the people here can't outdrive the current brakes with proper pads, so I personally see a 6-piston caliper as an aesthetic thing rather than a performance upgrade.

I couldn't find anything on the transmission other than a retuned DCCD. The suspension tuning goes away once you inevitably change it.

I can't say it excites me anymore than the current offering.
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After looking at the current information floating around, I don't see anything that big about it. They are taming it more to be comforting, it looks the same, and still has the same motor it's always had. Additionally, I bet 99% of the people here can't outdrive the current brakes with proper pads, so I personally see a 6-piston caliper as an aesthetic thing rather than a performance upgrade.

I couldn't find anything on the transmission other than a retuned DCCD. The suspension tuning goes away once you inevitably change it.

I can't say it excites me anymore than the current offering.
I agree. Recaros are probably a nice upgrade, brakes won't be noticeable, but still nice. I prefer my red gauges and I was fine with the drivetrain the way it was. I didn't think there would be any drastic changes to 2018, but still some nice upgrades, could have been worse.
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I agree. Recaros are probably a nice upgrade, brakes won't be noticeable, but still nice. I prefer my red gauges and I was fine with the drivetrain the way it was. I didn't think there would be any drastic changes to 2018, but still some nice upgrades, could have been worse.
it's a huge upgrade for braking.
6 piston brembo stops much better than 4 piston on track though you don't notice that on everyday driving.
That's why brembo charges 8000usd for 6 piston alone.
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As an owner of two GRs, I completely disagree. This is a minor upgrade compared to the VA chassis/sus.

And how do you know the center diff is going to make any difference at all? I bet it doesn't or is slightly worse than before. I think they are doing it to increase efficiency, not performance.

The brakes only matter if you're overheating the stock brakes and have no decent solution. They won't make the car stop any faster.

This "update" is the first big update for the sti platform since it's introduction in 03

dccd is reworked
electronic center diff
rework struts
bigger brakes
recaro seats

GR had better daily driver ability with SI drive and tweaked suspension, stiffer chassis, and a more liner power band. VA has a stiffer and "stage 1 tune" from factory(what it feels like at least) from what i've told and noticed behind the wheel. Not saying GR didn't do anything but you can't ignore this will be one of the biggest change ever.

There probably more under the skin stuff they are working on.

S20X cars were miles better to drive than the standard cars due to the little tweaks. Im assuming this will bridge the gap a little more.
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This "update" is the first big update for the sti platform since it's introduction in 03

dccd is reworked
electronic center diff
rework struts
bigger brakes
recaro seats

GR had better daily driver ability with SI drive and tweaked suspension, stiffer chassis, and a more liner power band. VA has a stiffer and "stage 1 tune" from factory(what it feels like at least) from what i've told and noticed behind the wheel. Not saying GR didn't do anything but you can't ignore this will be one of the biggest change ever.

There probably more under the skin stuff they are working on.

S20X cars were miles better to drive than the standard cars due to the little tweaks. Im assuming this will bridge the gap a little more.
Agree.
2018 feels more like a production version of s207
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