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Old 01-10-17, 10:08 AM   #121
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No, larger pads do not absolutely guarantee a larger rotor.


Subaru is not selling a track car. Again, if you select the proper pad and have proper cooling, you shouldn't experience fade with the 4-pot. ALLCAPSYELLINGNOBODYCARES!!!!
I agree the brakes on the car are phenomenal, I still have my stock original rotors, and I have only replaced the pads once...at 48,000 ish miles, have 77,000 miles on the car now and the replacement pads I installed have plenty of meat left. The car will stop very very quick from 60. I had bed the breaks in a few times after installing those replacement pads, and I can actually get some fade after doing about 6 back to back 60-0 stops.

I also agree with everything you have said about tires being more important at stopping, since I have had 2 sets now of max performance summer tires and both sets triggered the ABS when doing hard stops from high highway speeds. All the Car really needs with the current brembos is a nice sticky set of tires. I do think however that the 2018 brakes will be better with sticky tires as well. So we'll just have to see what the testers get for stopping distances and how much more or less resistant to fade they will be when they get hot as supplied from the factory. I bet there WILL be improvements stock for stock.
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Old 01-10-17, 10:21 AM   #122
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NONE of it matters. If you're tracking the car, you SHOULD be using a proper pad. Rotors matter too... A rotor isn't a rotor, isn't a rotor. Been there, done that.

Stopping distances aren't really the topic of bigger brakes and literally NOBODY in this thread cares about it aside from YOU!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Old 01-10-17, 07:51 PM   #123
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I agree the brakes on the car are phenomenal, I still have my stock original rotors, and I have only replaced the pads once...at 48,000 ish miles, have 77,000 miles on the car now and the replacement pads I installed have plenty of meat left. The car will stop very very quick from 60. I had bed the breaks in a few times after installing those replacement pads, and I can actually get some fade after doing about 6 back to back 60-0 stops.

I also agree with everything you have said about tires being more important at stopping, since I have had 2 sets now of max performance summer tires and both sets triggered the ABS when doing hard stops from high highway speeds. All the Car really needs with the current brembos is a nice sticky set of tires. I do think however that the 2018 brakes will be better with sticky tires as well. So we'll just have to see what the testers get for stopping distances and how much more or less resistant to fade they will be when they get hot as supplied from the factory. I bet there WILL be improvements stock for stock.
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Old 01-10-17, 07:58 PM   #124
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NONE of it matters. If you're tracking the car, you SHOULD be using a proper pad. Rotors matter too... A rotor isn't a rotor, isn't a rotor. Been there, done that.

Stopping distances aren't really the topic of bigger brakes and literally NOBODY in this thread cares about it aside from YOU!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Welp, like I keep saying we just have to wait and see what the 2018 can do on the track vs the current set up, because none of the discussion in this thread really matters, none of the driving I have done nor you have done matters until you have driven the 2018. I get everything you said though. So we'll see....but I'm guessing there will be improvements. Subaru knows what they are doing.

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Old 01-10-17, 11:39 PM   #125
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well are the 2015 S207 calipers floating?? They're the same setup. there's your answer. Research people. Research.
The S207 Front Brake Rotors are 2pc floating design:



The 2018 STi 6pot Front Rotors looks like 1pc design from the media pics:



Not the same set up. I guess we get watered down version again.
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Old 01-11-17, 04:09 AM   #126
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Screw the brakes all the new ones will do is cost more. Like I said they added them to resist fade from the brake vector system.

Every STi/Evolution I had the brakes were fine for what I do with it.

I used to do fast stops from 90-100 all the time in my 2005 STi plus crazy street driving as I was 18 when I got her!
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I was in the same boat when saw the facelift, until I saw it at Detroit.

I love everything, specially the seats, and they claim its quieter, if its anything like the update to the Forester then I think it'll be worth it.

BUT

the front new bumper plastic KILLED the look of the car, it's this light grey plastic color on the inserts, may be the lightning made it even more obvious but it was really mismatched with the blue and rest of the black accents on the front end.

I'll wait until they hit the lot before making the decision on the switch.
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Old 01-11-17, 09:16 AM   #128
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its just a better STI version then the current set up, get over it.

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Old 01-11-17, 09:30 AM   #129
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obviously this is a "low" day . . . pull back on that stick, before you crash !
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