Considering going to the dark side. - Page 4

Rootus · 04-13-2008, 05:48 PM

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Originally Posted by twigg107

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I'd fix the two extra apostrophes, though.

Deuce Cam · 04-13-2008, 05:53 PM

Like jnprn2003 mentioned, I would at least wait until next year when the 2009 models are released to make a decision. Potential issues have been noted with both new models. Personally, at this point, I wouldn't feel confident in purchasing either car after reading the rumors on iwsti and evom (even if they're not all true).

twigg107 · 04-13-2008, 05:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Rootus

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I'd fix the two extra apostrophes, though.

fixed..... grammer police.....

Rootus · 04-13-2008, 06:19 PM

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Originally Posted by twigg107

fixed..... grammer police.....

That would be grammar

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Normally I don't care a bit about grammar, but if you're going to torment the Evo guys, I figure it works better if you don't hand them easy ammo

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Is the '08 still using a metal gas pedal lever? I hope so

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twigg107 · 04-13-2008, 06:22 PM

lol I give.... you win.

RedlineSTI · 04-13-2008, 06:28 PM

my friend has an evo X. check this one out, if you start immediately, without keeping the key in the 'on' position for a few seconds, the car's idle is very rough. from what i hear about the breaking gas pedals and paint defects, i wouldn't sell myself so quickly. it's not an evo IX, it makes less power stock, is heavier, and IMO uglier. whether it outperforms the STI or not, the STI is still, again IMO, the better car. think hard

***solovus*** · 04-13-2008, 06:42 PM

looks like hitman83 had something else to do... maybe he is still trying to find something that says the Evo has better acceleration.

pwn · 04-13-2008, 09:16 PM

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Originally Posted by solovus

OK. I have read a ton and they say the Evo X wins in handling, but the STi stomps in power/acceleration. I just want you to state a single reference that says the EVO wins in acceleration.

FROM: Comparison Test: Mitsubishi Evo GSR vs. Mitsubishi Evo MR vs. 2008 Subaru WRX STI

Yea, but mitsu just came out with a free reflash that improves the tune and gives another 25 whp. And the reflash fixes the throttle position issues.

pwn · 04-13-2008, 10:59 PM

I am worried about mistu's warranty though...HMMMMMM. ag

supermarkus · 04-13-2008, 11:07 PM

I just can't get past the less than 7 cubic feet of trunk space that only gets smaller with more options and there's no pass through. I need a DD with more utility than the evo can provide. And the broken gas pedal thing scares me a little. At least EVERY issue I've ever had with Subaru cars, with the exception of an AC leak stemming from a car accident, has been covered under warranty. Mitsu can't warranty a broken accelerator? Have fun with that.

***solovus*** · 04-14-2008, 03:52 AM

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Originally Posted by pwn

Yea, but mitsu just came out with a free reflash that improves the tune and gives another 25 whp. And the reflash fixes the throttle position issues.

Interesting. Why would mitsu do this? Maybe because their cars aren't selling ... I haven't seen a single Evo X on the road. And I drive/work around DC so I would expect to see one by now. To be fair though I haven't seen another 08 STi either. Maybe Subaru will offer a free reflash/upgrade because of the whole stop-sale.

hairlesswookiee · 04-14-2008, 04:17 AM

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Originally Posted by Rootus

The funniest thing about that is that you could make a far more compelling argument that the IX outperforms the 06 STI than you can the X versus the '08 STI. If you base your decision on magazine testing, the Evo always wins. Usually by the tiniest of margins, but it wins. I kinda feel sorry for the people who fall into that particular trap, however. Not real sorry, understand, but kinda

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lol... i agree 100% i read the magazines to see what i'm in for before i go to the dealership for a test drive. other than that i use the magazine reviews like i do with movie reviews... there's some douche that thinks he's a guru, but what it comes down to is my own experience/ preferences with the car.
~~i have yet to see an Evo X on the road, and the same goes with the '08 STI. my buddy said he's seen a new STI out around the airport, but the only thing i've seen are Evo MRs and '07 STIs.

pwn · 04-14-2008, 04:40 AM

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Originally Posted by solovus

Interesting. Why would mitsu do this? Maybe because their cars aren't selling ... I haven't seen a single Evo X on the road. And I drive/work around DC so I would expect to see one by now. To be fair though I haven't seen another 08 STi either. Maybe Subaru will offer a free reflash/upgrade because of the whole stop-sale.

Its mainly to fix the throttle position issue, but i guess there was issues with the tune in the stock form. I don't think a reflash would be used to get more customers....just now its going to actually be making the power its advertised to have :P.

Yea the hatch is something big for me, although compared to the price I could pay for an evo w/ a nice sound system and nav and enkei wheels and recaro's, which is like 32.5, I would likely save 5-6 grand over the sti, and then I would also save in modding because more with less.

So I guess the question is do I want to fork over more for the STI and ultimately have less, just because its an sti and I like it / support subaru and the community behind it. I dont know. Its a war going on in my head right now.

**Digitalfiend** · 04-14-2008, 04:48 AM

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Originally Posted by pwn

Yea, but mitsu just came out with a free reflash that improves the tune and gives another 25 whp. And the reflash fixes the throttle position issues.

Got a link for that?

The only link I found is:
Factory Reflash X - evolutionm.net

That's +14whp not +25whp, no idea of the torque difference because it isn't shown. Also:

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Here is a before and after comparison with and without the TSB. The original runs were made a few months ago when the X first came out.

Cars can easily dyno differently with that many months separating the runs. Different quality gas, weather, whatever.

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Deuce Cam STI Driver Car: 06 STI Location: Phoenix Posts: 249 Join Date: May 2006 Trader Rating: (0)	Re: Considering going to the dark side. Like jnprn2003 mentioned, I would at least wait until next year when the 2009 models are released to make a decision. Potential issues have been noted with both new models. Personally, at this point, I wouldn't feel confident in purchasing either car after reading the rumors on iwsti and evom (even if they're not all true).

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RedlineSTI Junior STI Driver Car: 05 STI Location: Essex County, NJ Posts: 193 Join Date: Jun 2006 Trader Rating: (2)	Re: Considering going to the dark side. my friend has an evo X. check this one out, if you start immediately, without keeping the key in the 'on' position for a few seconds, the car's idle is very rough. from what i hear about the breaking gas pedals and paint defects, i wouldn't sell myself so quickly. it's not an evo IX, it makes less power stock, is heavier, and IMO uglier. whether it outperforms the STI or not, the STI is still, again IMO, the better car. think hard

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04-13-2008, 11:07 PM	#56
supermarkus Spec C Club Car: 08 STi, SSM Location: Edmonds Washington Posts: 1,441 Join Date: Dec 2005 Trader Rating: (0)	Re: Considering going to the dark side. I just can't get past the less than 7 cubic feet of trunk space that only gets smaller with more options and there's no pass through. I need a DD with more utility than the evo can provide. And the broken gas pedal thing scares me a little. At least EVERY issue I've ever had with Subaru cars, with the exception of an AC leak stemming from a car accident, has been covered under warranty. Mitsu can't warranty a broken accelerator? Have fun with that.