Perrin or Cobb--I currently

aquack · 03-31-2008, 04:56 PM

I have an access port from Rallitek and with their tune as well as Cobb's I am over boosting. Is perrin better? Perrin seems to have more parts readily available and more to hit the market soon? I got much better phone service from perrin(talked to the owner) as compared to someone from Cobb who did not seem to know much??
So guys what are thoughts out there on perrin? Is an up pipe worth doing? perrin thinks so. they also have a new intercooler(top mount) and a front mount coming soon, Thoughts please?? They have an intake coming out soon too.

GilMikalian · 03-31-2008, 05:11 PM

I never had any issues with my Cobb maps, both in Stage 1 or Stage 2. Did you flash using Real Time or did you Reflash? Make sure you Reflashed since not all of the mapping registers with the car if you simply Real Time the map.

By the way, how do you know you're overboosting? How are you datalogging?

waktasz · 03-31-2008, 05:14 PM

um, you can't put a real time map over nothing, so he must have a base map of some kind on there.

GilMikalian · 03-31-2008, 05:20 PM

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Originally Posted by waktasz

um, you can't put a real time map over nothing, so he must have a base map of some kind on there.

Yup, the stock map may be underneath the Real Time.

aquack · 03-31-2008, 05:27 PM

what is real time? I put the connectors together and remapped according to the access port. I know I over boosted from my GLH turbo. I almost got thrown thru the winshield as everything cut out. I checked the cel and it said out of boost range or something like that?? Thanks guys. Should I return it and get a Perrin? I was running a K&N filter which i have since changed. The tune was fairly fresh too.?? There seems to be a lot of debate about wheteher a K&n lay in is okay.

twigg107 · 03-31-2008, 06:02 PM

What mods and what map are you running?

**Digitalfiend** · 03-31-2008, 07:31 PM

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Originally Posted by aquack

Thanks guys. Should I return it and get a Perrin? I was running a K&N filter which i have since changed. The tune was fairly fresh too.?? There seems to be a lot of debate about wheteher a K&n lay in is okay.

Return what? The AP? The AP is the same whether you get it from Rallisport or Perrin or Cobb. The "free" maps that they provide are the only difference.

If you are overboosting with the Cobb and Rallisport maps, I'd recommend that you try resetting the ECU (via the AP or battery method.) Definitely get rid of the K&N. While I had no problems running one with my '05, I've heard that the '08 is more picky.

When are you overboosting? Is it during a WOT pull in a high gear from low RPM?

CFar · 04-01-2008, 03:33 AM

What kind of car do you have?? Put the connectors together?? The 2008 models dont require you to connect anything but the accessport to the OBD port.

You have a GLH turbo say what?

You said you had a KN filter. Did you try running without the intake? Cobb states stock airbox in the map notes.

aquack · 04-01-2008, 04:13 AM

OK, I HAVE AN 08 STI and I have a cobb downpipe and the access port running the cobb 93 program. I also ran the rallitek 93 program. I connected the green connectores under the passenger side carpet under the bottom of the dash. After I prorammed it then i disconnected them again. Is this correct? I believe I read this somewhere and a rallitek guy told me to do this????
When I overboosted, once was with the cobb tune and once was with the rallitek tune. Both times I had the K&N filter in it. I removed the filter and reprogrammed with the Cobb. I have not done a hard pull in 4th gear yet(that is where it overboosted both times). I heard to give it some time to calibrate and set the adaptives? Have done anything wrong?? Thanks

hairlesswookiee · 04-01-2008, 04:36 AM

^^not sure, but when i flashed my car last saturday the car wouldn't start for a couple minutes. can't remember if you need to wait for a few minutes, but i turned the key over 3 times before it started. i could literally feel my blood pressure rising.

aquack · 04-01-2008, 04:47 AM

yes, u need to wait atleast 10 seconds-my hand held flashed that on the screen

CrashOMatic · 04-01-2008, 08:37 AM

Hi,
Anytime I have flashed it takes a few spins before it fires up. I have a 08 STi with Cobb stage II and have the same issue as well as others on the forum. The downpipe helped but exhaust is the cure I feel. I also had a Shelby GLHS Turbo Omni #246 ...torque steer extreme..Flipped it 13 times off a bridge into Lake Lanier in Ga. Almost killed myself, still miss the car :-)
Cheers

waktasz · 04-01-2008, 08:43 AM

Turn the key to on, but don't start it, for about 10 seconds. All the DBW cars do that.

aquack · 04-01-2008, 08:52 AM

Have you guys been connecting the green plugs during reprogramming??

CFar · 04-01-2008, 10:11 AM

No on the connectors. Call COBB to verify. I didn't know the 08 had them.

03-31-2008, 04:56 PM	#1
aquack Amateur STI Driver Car: 08 red S.T.I Fav Mod: Coming Soon Posts: 38 Join Date: Mar 2008 Trader Rating: (0)	Perrin or Cobb--I currently I have an access port from Rallitek and with their tune as well as Cobb's I am over boosting. Is perrin better? Perrin seems to have more parts readily available and more to hit the market soon? I got much better phone service from perrin(talked to the owner) as compared to someone from Cobb who did not seem to know much?? So guys what are thoughts out there on perrin? Is an up pipe worth doing? perrin thinks so. they also have a new intercooler(top mount) and a front mount coming soon, Thoughts please?? They have an intake coming out soon too. This ad is not endorsed by this member. Please register or login to hide this ad.

03-31-2008, 05:14 PM	#3
waktasz Professional STI Racer Car: 02 Penis Extender Fav Mod: Autotrader.com Location: Philly Posts: 813 Join Date: Jan 2006 Trader Rating: (1)	Re: Perrin or Cobb--I currently um, you can't put a real time map over nothing, so he must have a base map of some kind on there.

03-31-2008, 05:27 PM	#5
aquack Amateur STI Driver Car: 08 red S.T.I Fav Mod: Coming Soon Posts: 38 Join Date: Mar 2008 Trader Rating: (0)	Re: Perrin or Cobb--I currently what is real time? I put the connectors together and remapped according to the access port. I know I over boosted from my GLH turbo. I almost got thrown thru the winshield as everything cut out. I checked the cel and it said out of boost range or something like that?? Thanks guys. Should I return it and get a Perrin? I was running a K&N filter which i have since changed. The tune was fairly fresh too.?? There seems to be a lot of debate about wheteher a K&n lay in is okay.

03-31-2008, 06:02 PM	#6
twigg107 Spec C Club Car: 08 DGM STI Fav Mod: Me..... Location: Vancouver, Wa Posts: 1,469 Join Date: Jun 2006 Trader Rating: (1)	Re: Perrin or Cobb--I currently What mods and what map are you running?

04-01-2008, 03:33 AM	#8
CFar Grassroots STI Racer Location: NOVA Posts: 546 Join Date: Jun 2006 Trader Rating: (1)	Re: Perrin or Cobb--I currently What kind of car do you have?? Put the connectors together?? The 2008 models dont require you to connect anything but the accessport to the OBD port. You have a GLH turbo say what? You said you had a KN filter. Did you try running without the intake? Cobb states stock airbox in the map notes.

03-31-2008, 05:11 PM	#2
GilMikalian Silver Member Car: '08 DGM STI w/BBS Fav Mod: Britax Roundabout Location: L.A. Posts: 1,036 Join Date: Jan 2008 Trader Rating: (0)	Re: Perrin or Cobb--I currently I never had any issues with my Cobb maps, both in Stage 1 or Stage 2. Did you flash using Real Time or did you Reflash? Make sure you Reflashed since not all of the mapping registers with the car if you simply Real Time the map. By the way, how do you know you're overboosting? How are you datalogging?

04-01-2008, 04:13 AM	#9
aquack Amateur STI Driver Car: 08 red S.T.I Fav Mod: Coming Soon Posts: 38 Join Date: Mar 2008 Trader Rating: (0)	Re: Perrin or Cobb--I currently OK, I HAVE AN 08 STI and I have a cobb downpipe and the access port running the cobb 93 program. I also ran the rallitek 93 program. I connected the green connectores under the passenger side carpet under the bottom of the dash. After I prorammed it then i disconnected them again. Is this correct? I believe I read this somewhere and a rallitek guy told me to do this???? When I overboosted, once was with the cobb tune and once was with the rallitek tune. Both times I had the K&N filter in it. I removed the filter and reprogrammed with the Cobb. I have not done a hard pull in 4th gear yet(that is where it overboosted both times). I heard to give it some time to calibrate and set the adaptives? Have done anything wrong?? Thanks

04-01-2008, 04:36 AM	#10
hairlesswookiee Senior STI Driver Car: 2008 WRB STI Fav Mod: Cobb AccessPort Stage 1 Location: Tallahassee Posts: 317 Join Date: Feb 2008 Trader Rating: (0)	Re: Perrin or Cobb--I currently ^^not sure, but when i flashed my car last saturday the car wouldn't start for a couple minutes. can't remember if you need to wait for a few minutes, but i turned the key over 3 times before it started. i could literally feel my blood pressure rising.

04-01-2008, 04:47 AM	#11
aquack Amateur STI Driver Car: 08 red S.T.I Fav Mod: Coming Soon Posts: 38 Join Date: Mar 2008 Trader Rating: (0)	Re: Perrin or Cobb--I currently yes, u need to wait atleast 10 seconds-my hand held flashed that on the screen

04-01-2008, 08:37 AM	#12
CrashOMatic Amateur STI Driver Car: Blue Mica 08 WRX STi Fav Mod: KTM 950 Super Enduro Location: Birmingham AL Posts: 22 Join Date: Mar 2004 Trader Rating: (0)	Re: Perrin or Cobb--I currently Hi, Anytime I have flashed it takes a few spins before it fires up. I have a 08 STi with Cobb stage II and have the same issue as well as others on the forum. The downpipe helped but exhaust is the cure I feel. I also had a Shelby GLHS Turbo Omni #246 ...torque steer extreme..Flipped it 13 times off a bridge into Lake Lanier in Ga. Almost killed myself, still miss the car :-) Cheers

04-01-2008, 08:43 AM	#13
waktasz Professional STI Racer Car: 02 Penis Extender Fav Mod: Autotrader.com Location: Philly Posts: 813 Join Date: Jan 2006 Trader Rating: (1)	Re: Perrin or Cobb--I currently Turn the key to on, but don't start it, for about 10 seconds. All the DBW cars do that.

04-01-2008, 08:52 AM	#14
aquack Amateur STI Driver Car: 08 red S.T.I Fav Mod: Coming Soon Posts: 38 Join Date: Mar 2008 Trader Rating: (0)	Re: Perrin or Cobb--I currently Have you guys been connecting the green plugs during reprogramming??

04-01-2008, 10:11 AM	#15
CFar Grassroots STI Racer Location: NOVA Posts: 546 Join Date: Jun 2006 Trader Rating: (1)	Re: Perrin or Cobb--I currently No on the connectors. Call COBB to verify. I didn't know the 08 had them. This ad is not endorsed by this member. Please register or login to hide this ad.