[waktasz]

Trap speeds are a good indication of power to the ground. Two cars with similar trap speeds have very similar power output, RWD, AWD or FWD, they will be pretty equal.

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Originally Posted by 2slow2curious

So is it just rwd with similiar traps that pull on awd from a roll?
What about drivetrain loss?

read his original post again... the whole thing this time...

[2slow2curious]

Maybe i am wrong but,a car with 300 bhp w/awd will be slower from a roll versus a 300bhp fwd/rwd car.

[AWDfreak]

Originally Posted by Brand

Who cares, turning is more fun

Best post in this thread!

If I had an STI, I'd be hitting the mountain passes, not the drag strip. Oh, and that's what those close gear-ratios are for.....

[waktasz]

Originally Posted by 2slow2curious

Maybe i am wrong but,a car with 300 bhp w/awd will be slower from a roll versus a 300bhp fwd/rwd car.

You're right. But an AWD car with 300 WHEEL hp will be just as fast as a 300 WHEEL horsepower RWD car.

[2slow2curious]

I dig what your'e sayin' i am stoned right now.

[MadMan77]

Originally Posted by waktasz

You're right. But an AWD car with 300 WHEEL hp will be just as fast as a 300 WHEEL horsepower RWD car.

There are so many factors not being taken into account with your reply here. Gearing, vehicle weight and driving style are one of the many reasons why your statement is incorrect.

[waktasz]

Obviously I'm making a generalization. Driving style? ha, your post makes me laugh.

[MadMan77]

Originally Posted by waktasz

Obviously I'm making a generalization. Driving style? ha, your post makes me laugh.

Driving style has a lot to do with how "fast" your car is and if you don't now that then I am sorry to break it to you.

Oh and if you want to act like a child please go on back to NASIOC with the rest of them so as to not ruin what we have here.

[the ambush]

Originally Posted by waktasz

...Accord 1/4 mile times and I got 14.60 @ 100.90.
An STI does low mid 13s at like 103.

the accord is actually still being pulled at the end of the 1/4. Guess what speed is going the sti 1 second after hitting 103, when the accord is hitting 100? probably 106-108. my only time at the strip was against srt4 trapping 107-108 but 1 second late. They never caught up cause by the time they were at the 1/4 and rolling 108, i also was going 107-108 (further down the strip 1 second ahead).

[waktasz]

Originally Posted by MadMan77

Driving style has a lot to do with how "fast" your car is and if you don't now that then I am sorry to break it to you.

Oh and if you want to act like a child please go on back to NASIOC with the rest of them so as to not ruin what we have here.

We are talking about the theoretical performance of a 300WHP AWD car vs a 300WHP RWD car here. Don't come in and start saying silling things about driving style having anything to do with it. Does driving style affect dyno runs too?

[waktasz]

Originally Posted by the ambush

the accord is actually still being pulled at the end of the 1/4. Guess what speed is going the sti 1 second after hitting 103, when the accord is hitting 100? probably 106-108. my only time at the strip was against srt4 trapping 107-108 but 1 second late. They never caught up cause by the time they were at the 1/4 and rolling 108, i also was going 107-108 (further down the strip 1 second ahead).

I'm not really sure what you're saying? You think the Accord would catch the STI in a longer race? I think I'd disagree. Besides, it's an accord

[MadMan77]

Originally Posted by waktasz

We are talking about the theoretical performance of a 300WHP AWD car vs a 300WHP RWD car here. Don't come in and start saying silling things about driving style having anything to do with it. Does driving style affect dyno runs too?

Seriously man, what is wrong with you? Nowhere in your prior posts have you inferred, let alone mentioned, "theoretical" performance.

Using your same mind set, you would have to say a modified Lotus Elise with 300 WHP is comparable to our car which is over 1,000 lbs heavier. That is just crazy.

Edit: Oh yeah, trap speed might have something to do with HP and gearing and when the driver shifted and many other variables. I might have mentioned that before.

[waktasz]

Ugh, let me try to explain since you clearly missed my point. I was making a point that once you start talking about WHP you've already eliminated drivetrain loss, so a 300 WHP AWD car is just as fast as a 300 WHP RWD car. Please stop adding in apples and oranges comparisons.

[MadMan77]

Originally Posted by waktasz

Ugh, let me try to explain since you clearly missed my point. I was making a point that once you start talking about WHP you've already eliminated drivetrain loss, so a 300 WHP AWD car is just as fast as a 300 WHP RWD car. Please stop adding in apples and oranges comparisons.

The only thing that those two share is they are making 300 WHP assuming they would have used the same dyno with the same load ratings.

Again, this has nothing to do with how fast they are. It just simply says that they have the same amount of power at the wheels, however many it may be.

Edit: BTW this thread is about comparing apples to oranges.