[Dj Hurricane]

Originally Posted by 0utlier

Awww man... I loved the macho gun-toting part. Must be a down South thing. I tote a gun too (legally). Heck, almost everyone in Alabama totes a gun. People are generally very nice down in these parts too, and I guess that's why. That's why it's kinda funny to hear someone make threats they'll send someone out to "break their arm" or whatever. You best know who you're dealing with if you come after someone down here. There's an old saying... don't bring a knife to a gun fight.

I have broken quite a few myself> and a couple of ankles too! and I have disarmed a few people too!

Thats not to say I don't have enough guns and rounds to start my own Malitia!
My christmas present from my wife this year was a new @#$%^&*&*( for stocking stuffers I got the 30round mags...

But when It comes to action> Ill mention Kicking someone's ass if thry deserve it, but my tools are for defense ONLY!

WAY OFF TOPIC>>>

ok enough>

I made my point>

How do I erase all these post??? I really just wanted to slow down the EVO TROLLING

Better yet.. could we loose this BIAS thread?

[0utlier]

Originally Posted by DrPhyzx

Only one problem with guns: a little escalation and you are staring down the barrel of a thermonuclear warhead. Just one of those can really **** up your whole day.
(like it matters at this point )

This thread has gone so far off topic that I'll just add one more off topic post to keep things fun and entertaining. There's also another saying 'round here pertinent to escalation...

Don't start no sh!t, won't be no sh!t.

It's a culture thing, but I always felt far safer here, knowing probably 5 out of 10 people walking around are packing than I ever did living in DC where law abiding citizens couldn't carry, and only outlaws carried guns. Certainly don't want this to turn into some political thread, but everyone's point of view is skewed by the culture they grew up in.

[DrPhyzx]

Originally Posted by 0utlier

This thread has gone so far off topic that I'll just add one more off topic post to keep things fun and entertaining. There's also another saying 'round here pertinent to escalation...

Don't start no sh!t, won't be no sh!t.

It's a culture thing, but I always felt far safer here, knowing probably 5 out of 10 people walking around are packing than I ever did living in DC where law abiding citizens couldn't carry, and only outlaws carried guns. Certainly don't want this to turn into some political thread, but everyone's point of view is skewed by the culture they grew up in.

I guess... my point of view is skewed by the fact that my predecessors designed the bomb.

[Pre]

Originally Posted by 0utlier

Awww man... I loved the macho gun-toting part. Must be a down South thing. I tote a gun too (legally). Heck, almost everyone in Alabama totes a gun. People are generally very nice down in these parts too, and I guess that's why. That's why it's kinda funny to hear someone make threats they'll send someone out to "break their arm" or whatever. You best know who you're dealing with if you come after someone down here. There's an old saying... don't bring a knife to a gun fight.

That was kind of my point as it certainly wasn't to brag or be macho as I rarely care what anyone thinks but 'my' people. I have a CHL, trained for endless hours with ex-military instructors, police officers, etc. I am fairly big on protecting myself, friends, family, my animals, and my property. The last thing I'd ever do is make threats about sending Guido over to some guy's house to bust him up. It's lame Especially considering it's someone getting that worked up over some comments on an internet forum.

Dr. It's not the wild wild west out here or anything by any stretch of the imagination. I live in a major city. To obtain a CHL in my state you must complete training and a background check. When the state legislature passed the law our crime dropped. Guns aren't dangerous, people are dangerous. But I understand, I have friends in Kalifornia and they aren't fond of guns. I've tried to explain to them that people piloting 3000 lb vehicles unsafely can be as much or more dangerous than any gun.

[DrPhyzx]

Originally Posted by Pre

That was kind of my point as it certainly wasn't to brag or be macho as I rarely care what anyone thinks but 'my' people. I have a CHL, trained for endless hours with ex-military instructors, police officers, etc. I am fairly big on protecting myself, friends, family, my animals, and my property. The last thing I'd ever do is make threats about sending Guido over to some guy's house to bust him up. It's lame Especially considering it's someone getting that worked up over some comments on an internet forum.

Dr. It's not the wild wild west out here or anything by any stretch of the imagination. I live in a major city. To obtain a CHL in my state you must complete training and a background check. When the state legislature passed the law our crime dropped. Guns aren't dangerous, people are dangerous. But I understand, I have friends in Kalifornia and they aren't fond of guns. I've tried to explain to them that people piloting 3000 lb vehicles unsafely can be as much or more dangerous than any gun.

It's all cool... I'm practically a midwestern farm-boy myself but have lived all over the world. Oddly enough, the wild west is a pretty good description of where I live now. Let's just say that probably half my neighbors heat with wood, and the flatlanders (silicon valley) really think those that live up here are "mountain people", like it's Deliverance up here or something. You should see them when they discover their cell phones won't work up here.

BTW, anyone know anything about moving a car to Europe? Looks like I will have to spend a year or so over there pretty soon.

[damstr]

Originally Posted by Dj Hurricane

I would have responded quicker but I was on a Gig in the Bahamas today>>

I have never personally called anyone out in a forum like you just did!

WOW!
You are Brave hiding behind your screen PU$$YHOLE! Just remember, Hartford county is not that big, and you are not that hard to TRACE! Illl send my boy from Balt. to break your arm for you IF YOU EVER DISRESPECT ME AGAIN! You think im joking? Test ME!

That being said (***ot) THIS IS A SUBARU STI FORUM!!!!! NOT A mitsu Forum/// That was my point im my original post...

That I AM SICK of Dic% riders like you constantly bashing the STI on
"OUR FORUM"

GO litter the EVO forum!

AS for my OPINIONS! I am entitled to them... and my statements stand>

SUBARU IS A BETTER MAKE THAN MITSU AND I HAVE OWNED BOTH~

The New STI is on the LGT platform that I have been driving sense December04 >
And as for your BOYFRIEND saying negative **** about Subarus needing repairs....
Im sure he does see a fair ammount of ABUSED Turbo cars, likly from little cumps like you that think there racing all the time, because they constantly have something to prove due to LACK OF CONFIDENCE AND SMALL DICK!

THE EVO IS UGLY (Period)

Sti>EVO Get over it!

You still wanna call me out... PM me, Ill give you my Number, and we can arrange a date for me to Fly out and Visit you@! I got ALOT of Flyer miles begging to be used>

Wow dude you sound very mature...

Listen I know this is a Subby forum and sometimes I get out of hand.

But I started out on this forum way before I even looked at an Evo forum. Its because of what some people said on here that made me think what I did about the Evo back then. This is partly my fault I know. Then I saw a couple myself in person and started reading about them and it changed my mind compeletly.

I will stop posting about Evos in every frigging thread I jump on I can see how annoying it must be to you guys. I'll try to keep in mind that this is an STI forum. I just think its funny when some people diss the Evo and they have no idea what there talking about but again thats to be expected on a mfrc specifc car. It really ticks me off but I will refrain from now on.

Lastly I'm not scared of you dude, if you want to send someone out from Baltimore, I'll make the trip a lot easier since I'm in Glen Burnie all this week, but I guarantee he won't leave without some serious charges before he even reaches me because fighting over something so childish as this is LAME.

Originally Posted by Dj Hurricane

Again Sorry to get so serious.>> (REAL)

But this guys not even a Scobby owner, yet he has been on here sense 06 posting Bias crap like this thread/??

Dude I joined then but didn't start posting till a couple months from then.

Didn't want to start posting until I knew what I was talking about or at least had a pretty good idea. I hung out in the noob area for quite a while learning all the abbrv's for words and such. Heck when I joined I thought a turbo back and cat back were 2 completely different exhausts but the only difference is the peices you get.

Keep in mind that when I joined up until a little less then a year ago I hated the Evo, no joke you can ask any of my friends. I was always "STI is still better then the Evo," "STI sounds better," "STI has a nicer interior." I really was a brainless Suby fanboy.

[Evil-I]

Originally Posted by Dj Hurricane

That article starts out false! "Bridgestone Potenzas"

Anyway, To me the EVO is UGLY! not to mention the only thing I hear people saying that is better on the evo is the steering. (something Mazda Miata had also, but it didnt make me want a miata )
This makes me question weather or not these, self proclaimed experts, are use to the TORQsteer of a Scooby, and dont know how to SHUV her into a turn!!?

(to Me)
Largely Mitsubishis remain mitsubishis CRAP... They are not as well built, and long lasting as the Subarus...
STI is Lighter, Faster, Nicer looking, better built/
Not to mention the STI is in a whole different league of practicality with the HATCHback!

Personally I could care less about RECAROS! I don't want them for a DD. Im sure my wify would agree...

FOR ALL BUT A RACE AROUND A SHORT TRACK: STI>EVO

I know THIS is a thread about a comparison; however,
Seems to me, all the Haters on here need to go Join the Mitsu Forums to further ride the Evo Di*K... Quit littering every STI thread with Evo $hit..

Makes me wonder how many are just here to sway possible buyers over to the "Dark Side"... :;0)

ok let me get down from my SoapBox>>> But really>

I hope you all go get Evos! in Miami, Id be happy to be the only one with an STI! (oh yeah, besides you, Evil-I)... lol

What I love about this car is it's rarity. My wife keeps telling me to buy a G35, but I can't bring myself to purchase a car I see 20 of on my drive to and from work. I hope we are the only ones down here with them and that everyone else goes and buys an Ev-hoe.

[Rootus]

You guys are getting far too worked up about a car. You can argue all you want about which one is better, but you will never reach a conclusion, because there is no correct answer.

Go visit EvoM and make yourself feel better. If you get caught up in magazine reviews, you're gonna get all pissy about the Evo turning in better numbers. Go look at the real life experiences and you'll be able to appreciate the other side of that coin.

They are both great cars in their own way. And as Mitsubishi puts pressure on Subaru to go to the next level of performance, Subaru puts pressure on Mitsubishi to go to the next level of safety and reliability. They both learn from the other's strengths, and this is a very good thing for enthusiasts.

[ssauer2004]

Maybe I should refrain from posting. I'm afraid of getting "Whacked"!

[damstr]

Originally Posted by Rootus

You guys are getting far too worked up about a car. You can argue all you want about which one is better, but you will never reach a conclusion, because there is no correct answer.

Go visit EvoM and make yourself feel better. If you get caught up in magazine reviews, you're gonna get all pissy about the Evo turning in better numbers. Go look at the real life experiences and you'll be able to appreciate the other side of that coin.

They are both great cars in their own way. And as Mitsubishi puts pressure on Subaru to go to the next level of performance, Subaru puts pressure on Mitsubishi to go to the next level of safety and reliability. They both learn from the other's strengths, and this is a very good thing for enthusiasts.

I saw you were on Evom or at least someone with the same user name as you was cheking out the Evo X threads.

Well we can't see real life experiences yet because they Evo has yet to make it to the East Coast. But yeah like I said in a thread on Evom, reviews are all over the place so I don't know what to believe now except what I see in real world driving.

Plus who really cares about stock? Its modified that I really want to see. Should be interesting to see what kind of numbers these 08 STI's and Evo's can produce. 299whp on just a tune right for the STI? Not bad at all!

[Rootus]

Originally Posted by damstr

I saw you were on Evom or at least someone with the same user name as you was cheking out the Evo X threads.

Yup, I regularly surf both boards. I own an STI now, but when it comes time to pick the replacement for this car I am not a loyalist -- I'll choose based on which one of the newest generation suits me best. Right now, I think if I were forced to make a decision I would lean towards the Evo -- Mitsubishi has gone a long ways towards eliminating the issues that were a deal killer for me before when I was shopping '06 STI versus IX.

Plus who really cares about stock? Its modified that I really want to see. Should be interesting to see what kind of numbers these 08 STI's and Evo's can produce. 299whp on just a tune right for the STI? Not bad at all!

For sure it will be interesting to see how it all shakes out. For my needs, what can be attained with no more modification than exhaust and a tune is what I want to see. It looks like the new STI is putting down some wicked torque numbers, but the initial results for the X look promising too. The smaller turbo makes for a torquier power curve, and that suits me very well (I'm a long time V8 guy ).

Fun stuff! It could be worse if having to make a decision between two kick-ass cars is the only problem we have .

[damstr]

Originally Posted by Rootus

Yup, I regularly surf both boards. I own an STI now, but when it comes time to pick the replacement for this car I am not a loyalist -- I'll choose based on which one of the newest generation suits me best. Right now, I think if I were forced to make a decision I would lean towards the Evo -- Mitsubishi has gone a long ways towards eliminating the issues that were a deal killer for me before when I was shopping '06 STI versus IX.

For sure it will be interesting to see how it all shakes out. For my needs, what can be attained with no more modification than exhaust and a tune is what I want to see. It looks like the new STI is putting down some wicked torque numbers, but the initial results for the X look promising too. The smaller turbo makes for a torquier power curve, and that suits me very well (I'm a long time V8 guy ).


Fun stuff! It could be worse if having to make a decision between two kick-ass cars is the only problem we have .

I'm no loyalist either. I was trying really hard to test drive the STI, the dealership said only if I was buying would they allow me to test drive it.

Definitely will be a touch decision indeed. I had to make the same decision when I went out shopping for cars.

Almost bought an 07 STI then changed to an IX because I got a pretty good deal on it and I really liked the color. Steel gray metallic was only offered in 06 and it hurt to see it go in 07. I was in love with that color.

Also the dealership I had to deal with didn't want to give me gold wheels on a black STI and that pissed me off that they weren't willing to just change wheels when it was so easy to make a sale. So I said fine I'm going to Mitsubishi.

Yeah the STI with its smaller turbo and quicker spool up is better for the V8 guys then the harder hitting Evo turbo I guess. Really never thought of it that way. I thought the V8 guys would like the tail happy Evo. lol

[Tbagger]

My next car will be the EVO X for many reasons. The biggest is I don't want a hatch and the poor seats again. I'm giving mitsu a year to fine tune any issues that they might have with a new model and then I'm switching. Not because I hate subarus or my 06 I love my car. I just think the EVO was done over much better than the STi. For the price you can't beat it. They're both incredible cars and the decision comes down to the little things. Recaros, sedan, better for mods, better AWD system. Looks and all that other stuff just adds to the decision. I will always love subarus desire to keep to their final goal which is to make a car that will compete in the WRC and keep a mass produced replica for us common folks. Maybe a year from now Subaru will bring the Legacy STi to the states just to make my decision a lot harder (lets hope cause it's hot) but for now if I was deciding I'd be in the EVO and if nothing is different come next spring the decision will be that.

[Dj Hurricane]

OK guys, I am sorry to have escalated to threats. I am really a friendly nice guy>
I guess I have always been the type to beat up a bully when they deserve it...

anyway, as I review the whole thread, I realize how my original comments provoked a response... If Damstr drives an EVO and it is "his baby" I could see him being offended but the "Mitsu = Crap" thing... I dont really think Mitsus are crap Infact I think the differences between STI/EVO are marginal and comparisons, to me, are Hair Splitting at its best. Thats why I get riled when I read so many people trying to make it seem like EVO is soooooo much better and sooooo much faster ect ect.... than the STI, especially on a Scooby forum!

Alot of us, consider our Scoobys "our Baby"/
Alot of us could care less if one Daily Driven car is milliseconds faster technically.
There are alot of reasons why we pick one model over another, and many of us DONT RACE our cars at all... Thats not to say that performance isnt important to us, but not all of us are MOD crazy trying to pull every car on the road>
Here in Miami most people have Porche Turbo, S an CL series Mercedes with over 400hp and AWD, and M3s M5s M6s>>>> If I wanted to Race around here I wouldnt be buying a Subaru! I am getting it because for ME, it is the perfect balance between Performance, Cargo space, Price, and now Luxury comforts.




Maby the positive in this whole thing is it might reduce the Flaming and Trolling on the forum>

Again Sorry... No hard feelings

[RAAZ227]

Another STI vs EVO thread eh?