Three way shootout EVO vs STI on Edmunds - Page 3

steiner · 01-16-2008, 02:10 PM

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Originally Posted by ploney

I have some pretty interesting info.

In talking to a local resource, he stated that Mitsu. is still tweaking the engine mapping on the new EVO. They are not liking our local 91 octane swill is my guess. They are playing with boost levels and getting too much knock.

I have a suspicion that the test vehicles provided by Mitsu. don't actually have a full tank of 91 octane based on my info.

I am going to wait and see how the delivered production EVO's do in the real world and or on the AutoCross course against me in my 08 STI!

I think you'll eventually have to eat these words. Everything I've been hearing is that the 4B11 has been drastically detuned to be 50 state legal. Like the new STI with its dual V.V.T., I wouldn't be surprised to see a flash on a new Evo yield gains of 20whp-30whp. Moreover the OEM isn't tuning these things on the frazzled edge for magazine reviews. Regardless of the power however 3500lbs+ is too much girth for me.

ploney · 01-16-2008, 02:42 PM

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Originally Posted by steiner

I think you'll eventually have to eat these words. Everything I've been hearing is that the 4B11 has been drastically detuned to be 50 state legal. Like the new STI with its dual V.V.T., I wouldn't be surprised to see a flash on a new Evo yield gains of 20whp-30whp. Moreover the OEM isn't tuning these things on the frazzled edge for magazine reviews. Regardless of the power however 3500lbs+ is too much girth for me.

I am talking about stock vs stock. I'll be auto-xing in a stock class.
Reflashes not allowed there.

Just for clarity, my gut feel says they were adding additional octane to the test vehicles to avoid pinging because they are not able to tune it well enough yet to run our crappy 91 octane out here.

Mediumturbo · 01-17-2008, 06:55 PM

The new EVO is a boat 3500 pounds WTF...

CFar · 01-18-2008, 04:52 AM

3550 something, OR about 200 pounds heavier. Thats GSR, the MR is even heavier

JuggernautTCW · 01-18-2008, 04:56 AM

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Originally Posted by ploney

...to run our crappy 91 octane out here.

move to east coast and enjoy 93 octane

Rootus · 01-18-2008, 05:21 AM

Just think... the AYC lets the Evo hang with the STI even with a couple hundred pounds of extra weight ... how cool will it be when Subaru decides to put their own flavor of AYC on the STI

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**Digitalfiend** · 01-18-2008, 08:27 AM

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Originally Posted by JuggernautTCW

move to east coast and enjoy 93 octane

...or to Canada and enjoy 94.

steiner · 01-18-2008, 08:29 AM

Or just run 100 octane.

Stoli1986 · 01-18-2008, 08:31 AM

Or just move to Oregon and enjoy 93 octane whatever though....

mookieblaylock · 01-18-2008, 08:35 AM

i still cant believe they would be that stupid to design a sports car that gets signifigantly worse mpg and acceleration than its predecessor or competition. I dont get it. Maybe they release a light weight version

**Digitalfiend** · 01-18-2008, 09:17 AM

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Originally Posted by mookieblaylock

i still cant believe they would be that stupid to design a sports car that gets signifigantly worse mpg and acceleration than its predecessor or competition. I dont get it. Maybe they release a light weight version

Who is "they" (Subaru or Mitsu)?

STI_SLC · 01-18-2008, 10:08 AM

unbiasedly, i really see the mitsu as a pos.
looks, weight, etc.... jus not doing it for me...

the sti is such a more complete design.

pbm317 · 01-18-2008, 01:18 PM

An EVO X baseline dyno'ed at 232 Horse and 256 torque... I think the STI here on the forums baselined at 230 horse and 240 torque

waktasz · 01-18-2008, 01:35 PM

More like 230hp/270tq, but those numbers are meaningless unless they were done on the same dyno.

**Digitalfiend** · 01-18-2008, 02:57 PM

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Originally Posted by waktasz

More like 230hp/270tq, but those numbers are meaningless unless they were done on the same dyno.

Exactly...

01-17-2008, 06:55 PM	#33
Mediumturbo STI Driver Car: Black on Gold 08 STi Fav Mod: ... Location: Southern California Posts: 211 Join Date: Dec 2007 Trader Rating: (0)	Re: Three way shootout EVO vs STI on Edmunds The new EVO is a boat 3500 pounds WTF...

01-18-2008, 04:52 AM	#34
CFar Grassroots STI Racer Location: NOVA Posts: 568 Join Date: Jun 2006 Trader Rating: (1)	Re: Three way shootout EVO vs STI on Edmunds 3550 something, OR about 200 pounds heavier. Thats GSR, the MR is even heavier

01-18-2008, 05:21 AM	#36
Rootus S204 Racer Location: Mahan, OR Posts: 2,904 Join Date: Sep 2005 Trader Rating: (1)	Re: Three way shootout EVO vs STI on Edmunds Just think... the AYC lets the Evo hang with the STI even with a couple hundred pounds of extra weight ... how cool will it be when Subaru decides to put their own flavor of AYC on the STI .

01-18-2008, 08:29 AM	#38
steiner Senior STI Driver Car: Evo, FX35, LGT wagon Location: Livermore, CA Posts: 393 Join Date: Jun 2004 Trader Rating: (0)	Re: Three way shootout EVO vs STI on Edmunds Or just run 100 octane.

01-18-2008, 08:31 AM	#39
Stoli1986 Junior STI Driver Fav Mod: Coming Soon Posts: 80 Join Date: Dec 2007 Trader Rating: (0)	Re: Three way shootout EVO vs STI on Edmunds Or just move to Oregon and enjoy 93 octane whatever though....

01-18-2008, 08:35 AM	#40
mookieblaylock Amateur STI Driver Fav Mod: Coming Soon Posts: 10 Join Date: Dec 2007 Trader Rating: (0)	Re: Three way shootout EVO vs STI on Edmunds i still cant believe they would be that stupid to design a sports car that gets signifigantly worse mpg and acceleration than its predecessor or competition. I dont get it. Maybe they release a light weight version

01-18-2008, 10:08 AM	#42
STI_SLC Professional STI Driver Car: 06 AssPen STi Fav Mod: KW V3's Location: MillerMotorsportsPark,UT. Posts: 461 Join Date: Dec 2006 Trader Rating: (0)	Re: Three way shootout EVO vs STI on Edmunds unbiasedly, i really see the mitsu as a pos. looks, weight, etc.... jus not doing it for me... the sti is such a more complete design.

01-18-2008, 01:18 PM	#43
pbm317 Amateur STI Driver Car: White 07 Acura MDX Fav Mod: Coming Soon Posts: 45 Join Date: Jan 2008 Trader Rating: (0)	Re: Three way shootout EVO vs STI on Edmunds An EVO X baseline dyno'ed at 232 Horse and 256 torque... I think the STI here on the forums baselined at 230 horse and 240 torque

01-18-2008, 01:35 PM	#44
waktasz Professional STI Racer Car: 02 Penis Extender Fav Mod: Autotrader.com Location: Philly Posts: 818 Join Date: Jan 2006 Trader Rating: (1)	Re: Three way shootout EVO vs STI on Edmunds More like 230hp/270tq, but those numbers are meaningless unless they were done on the same dyno.