Need some help with choosing injectors - Page 2

**WolfPlayer** · 05-13-2006, 05:15 AM

You don't need to ask your tuner about this one. The choice is easy. Nismo injectors. Period. They are easier to tune than the PE or Helix injectors ... and will give you a better idle. Moreover, they have more than enough headroom for a 20G install.

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evokillinSTi · 05-13-2006, 05:43 AM

dude go with the power enterprise injectors

CbnSTi · 05-13-2006, 06:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by evokillinSTi

dude go with the power enterprise injectors

I have had hell with PE injectors

I just recieved a replacement set because the ones i purchased new werent flowing right, after i put the other set in maybe i will change my views on PE but right now im not impressed. If i continue to have issues then I will be going to Nismo

***Neanderthal Racing*** · 05-13-2006, 06:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by WolfPlayer

You don't need to ask your tuner about this one.

sure he does; unless youre his tuner.

CbnSTi · 05-13-2006, 07:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BruceChapman

sure he does; unless youre his tuner.

True True!

jays05 · 05-13-2006, 08:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CbnSTi

I have had hell with PE injectors

I just recieved a replacement set because the ones i purchased new werent flowing right, after i put the other set in maybe i will change my views on PE but right now im not impressed. If i continue to have issues then I will be going to Nismo

How did you discover they weren't flowing right?

CbnSTi · 05-13-2006, 09:45 AM

Well my tuner {scott siegel} and i diagnosed the idle, cel misfire codes, the choppiness of the power delivery, and the egt temps to the injectors. Also flow tested. Its been quite the headache because im so anal about my car

, i will let u guys know what the outcome is.
Scott says he has had recent issues with guys with the pe 850"s so i dunno.....

**Siegel Racing** · 05-13-2006, 12:52 PM

On CBN's car the EGT sensor was showing VERY high EGT at idle and cruise. It dropped at WOT... When that injector was switched to another position the EGTs dropped (now being under a different injector). That seems to point to one injector being a bit "light."

For a long time the PE's have been SUPER consistent. We've had a few cars lately that seemed possibly have one injector that ran different than the others...

The Nismos have risen to the top for the moment as far as consistency...

SS

**WolfPlayer** · 05-13-2006, 01:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BruceChapman

sure he does; unless youre his tuner.

This normally makes sense. However, as far as injectors for the STI are concerned, the Nismos are the best injectors available for the STI when you are going with a 20G install. Cobb agrees. Best in terms of quality. Best in terms of installation. Best in terms of idle characteristics. I could go on ... but I won't. If a tuner comes out and says the Helix or PE injectors are a better choice than the Nismos for a 20G install then I would doubt the knowledge and integrity of the Tuner.

Here is a comparison of the stock injector vs. the Helix. Yick. Helix has double o-rings, it is shorter, feels less solid, and you must use new retaining clips.

http://www.bescaredracing.com/sti/fu...elix/vs_stock/

In contrast, the Nismos are almost identical to stock.

The Nismos are easier to tune too (considering the end result when all is said and done).

t

CbnSTi · 05-13-2006, 01:13 PM

Looks like i might just be getting those nismo's......lets see what happens and since ive heard so many good things about the nismo's if the PE injectors dont work out i def feel like if i go with nismo i would be a happy camper..
thanks wolfplayer for the info

pt518sti · 05-13-2006, 02:35 PM

Some really good info here

So who sells the Nismo injectors?

***QuickSilverSTi*** · 05-13-2006, 02:54 PM

There is lots of info on modified injectors. From what I read, I would go the PE or Helix route or SARD. StaticXmotorsports has the SARD 850's.

**Majin** · 05-13-2006, 03:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pt518sti

So who sells the Nismo injectors?

+1

(going 20g

)

pt518sti · 05-13-2006, 03:09 PM

I'm having a hard time finding the "Nismo" injectors...
Are they sold under the name "Jecs"?

Also, are they just plug & play or do you have to modify anything?

Whats the average price for these anyway?

**Majin** · 05-13-2006, 03:11 PM

a quick search just now via Google showed me that they are going to be around $500 for the full set... most of the sites i looked at are actually in Japan.

(shipping costs and time may be a problem

)

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WolfPlayer Moderator & ECU Tech Car: 05 CGM STI Fav Mod: mo boostaz Location: Fredneck, MD Posts: 3,764 IWSTI Addict since: Jun 2004 Trader Rating: (6)	You don't need to ask your tuner about this one. The choice is easy. Nismo injectors. Period. They are easier to tune than the PE or Helix injectors ... and will give you a better idle. Moreover, they have more than enough headroom for a 20G install. t This ad is not endorsed by this member. Please register or login to hide this ad.

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05-13-2006, 05:43 AM	#17
evokillinSTi Junior STI Driver Car: 05 subaru wrx sti Fav Mod: Ecutek Reflash Location: coachella valley Posts: 176 IWSTI Addict since: Apr 2006 Trader Rating: (1)	dude go with the power enterprise injectors

05-13-2006, 09:45 AM	#22
CbnSTi STI Driver Car: 05 Subaru WRX STi Fav Mod: METH Posts: 271 IWSTI Addict since: Jul 2005 Trader Rating: (1)	Well my tuner {scott siegel} and i diagnosed the idle, cel misfire codes, the choppiness of the power delivery, and the egt temps to the injectors. Also flow tested. Its been quite the headache because im so anal about my car , i will let u guys know what the outcome is. Scott says he has had recent issues with guys with the pe 850"s so i dunno.....

05-13-2006, 12:52 PM	#23
Siegel Racing Authorized Vendor Car: Your STi ;) Fav Mod: Everything Location: Atlanta Posts: 1,330 IWSTI Addict since: Mar 2005 Trader Rating: (2)	On CBN's car the EGT sensor was showing VERY high EGT at idle and cruise. It dropped at WOT... When that injector was switched to another position the EGTs dropped (now being under a different injector). That seems to point to one injector being a bit "light." For a long time the PE's have been SUPER consistent. We've had a few cars lately that seemed possibly have one injector that ran different than the others... The Nismos have risen to the top for the moment as far as consistency... SS

05-13-2006, 01:13 PM	#25
CbnSTi STI Driver Car: 05 Subaru WRX STi Fav Mod: METH Posts: 271 IWSTI Addict since: Jul 2005 Trader Rating: (1)	Looks like i might just be getting those nismo's......lets see what happens and since ive heard so many good things about the nismo's if the PE injectors dont work out i def feel like if i go with nismo i would be a happy camper.. thanks wolfplayer for the info

05-13-2006, 02:35 PM	#26
pt518sti S204 Racer Car: 2005 White/Gold STi Fav Mod: TD06-20G/Tein Flex coilovers Location: New York Posts: 2,888 IWSTI Addict since: May 2005 Trader Rating: (8)	Some really good info here So who sells the Nismo injectors?

05-13-2006, 02:54 PM	#27
*QuickSilverSTi* nulla poena sine lege Car: '08 GT500 Location: Northern VA Posts: 1,768 IWSTI Addict since: Nov 2003 Trader Rating: (5)	There is lots of info on modified injectors. From what I read, I would go the PE or Helix route or SARD. StaticXmotorsports has the SARD 850's.

05-13-2006, 03:09 PM	#29
pt518sti S204 Racer Car: 2005 White/Gold STi Fav Mod: TD06-20G/Tein Flex coilovers Location: New York Posts: 2,888 IWSTI Addict since: May 2005 Trader Rating: (8)	I'm having a hard time finding the "Nismo" injectors... Are they sold under the name "Jecs"? Also, are they just plug & play or do you have to modify anything? Whats the average price for these anyway?