sard r2d2 BOV?

dlouie87 · 03-06-2006, 10:11 PM

any one have this on the car or can give me some feedback...i'm looking for a BOV before i get protuned.....and looking at this or the HKS

HWYKING · 03-13-2006, 11:00 AM

Both bovs are dope, but they tend to make our cars run too lean, even when protuned it will backfire alot. with the sard you need to run an 04 intercooler y pipe because it bolts on under the intercooler. so you need to find that as well. honestly bro, just run with either APS or AVO so you can recirculate and you will have no loss in power whatsoever. besides you can get them for about $200 anywhere. unless you want a meaner sound, go with HKS.

Rootus · 03-13-2006, 11:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HWYKING

Both bovs are dope, but they tend to make our cars run too lean

How do you figure?

***BoostJunkie*** · 03-13-2006, 11:09 AM

Oh god another BOV debate. If you are going to get a new BOV (which is pointless anyways) get something that recirculates.

Darkiller · 03-13-2006, 11:10 AM

When at idel if it has a leak then it will run lean .. But when it blows off it will run rich not lean .. Like when you shift it will run rich .. And if it is a good BOV it wont leak under idel

dlouie87 · 05-03-2006, 11:42 PM

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Originally Posted by BoostJunkie

Oh god another BOV debate. If you are going to get a new BOV (which is pointless anyways) get something that recirculates.

i'm not just another person......but i'm comparing the SARD to another BOV...i know it'll make car run lean...but i want to know if anyone has this on there car......i really wish people quit jumping into conclusions...and start saying "search" and stuff...just asking..

chowder31 · 05-04-2006, 12:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dlouie87

i'm not just another...but comparing the SARD...i not it'll make car run lean...but i want to know if anyone has this on there brand....i really wish people quit jumping into conclusions...and start saying "search" and stuff...just asking..

search...and stuff

dlouie87 · 05-04-2006, 01:15 PM

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Originally Posted by chowder31

search...and stuff

pt518sti · 05-04-2006, 01:35 PM

It wont make you run lean... rich for a split second, maybe... but not lean.

You also don't "need" to get BOV before you get protuned.
It plays no role in the tuning process.

Also, if you have any catalytic converters, kiss them goodbye if you're blowing off to the atmosphere

jays05 · 05-04-2006, 01:38 PM

A leak will make you run rich, not lean.

AmeenR · 05-04-2006, 02:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HWYKING

Both bovs are dope, but they tend to make our cars run too lean, even when protuned it will backfire alot. with the sard you need to run an 04 intercooler y pipe because it bolts on under the intercooler. so you need to find that as well. honestly bro, just run with either APS or AVO so you can recirculate and you will have no loss in power whatsoever. besides you can get them for about $200 anywhere. unless you want a meaner sound, go with HKS.

I hope no one is taking this information worth a grain of salt

SoaReS · 05-04-2006, 05:26 PM

Another, "which bov to get thread"

Im not trying to be mean here, but do a search! You'll then realize that getting an aftermarket bov for the stock turbo/stock psi is just dumb, and in the end hurts the performance of our car. But if your dead set on getting a bov, do us all a favor and atleast get a 100% recirculating one, but thats not even necessary because in the first place all you have to do is keep your stock bpv.

<---------------FTW!

Rootus · 05-04-2006, 06:58 PM

Do a search. And find that everyone will say "BOVs are bad." And that is about all you will find. Very little actual information on why.

If you have a BOV that only vents between shifts, then you are not going to have any problems. Problems occur when you have a setup that vents at part throttle (if you want a shining example, disconnect the bypass hose on the stock bypass valve

). During the time the BOV is venting, you will run rich, because you are releasing metered air prior to combustion. If this is for short periods of time, such as between shifts, it will be a non-issue. If, however, your BOV vents during part throttle, you have two problems to deal with -- first, an extended interval of rich operation, which can do things like harm catalytic converters; and second, if the ECU is in closed loop it will erroneously try to correct the mixture by pulling fuel. Later on it may use this incorrect data and run lean.

The short answer is the one everyone gives -- skip the BOV. However, if you want one, get it, and figure out how to keep it from venting except between shifts. How to accomplish that is a whole different discussion.

Dave

SoaReS · 05-04-2006, 06:59 PM

Where's klaymon when we need him for the

??

dlouie87 · 05-04-2006, 11:05 PM

jeez...guys...first...i want a vent...and second i was asking if anyone had the SARD!!!!...

but lock it up.....maybe some of you guys should read the questiong couple times before you guys start to diss on me.

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03-13-2006, 11:00 AM	#2
HWYKING Senior STI Driver Car: 06 SGM STI Fav Mod: CUSCO 1.5 RS lsd Location: Southern Kalifonia Posts: 390 IWSTI Addict since: Nov 2005 Trader Rating: (4)	Both bovs are dope, but they tend to make our cars run too lean, even when protuned it will backfire alot. with the sard you need to run an 04 intercooler y pipe because it bolts on under the intercooler. so you need to find that as well. honestly bro, just run with either APS or AVO so you can recirculate and you will have no loss in power whatsoever. besides you can get them for about $200 anywhere. unless you want a meaner sound, go with HKS.

03-13-2006, 11:09 AM	#4
*BoostJunkie* Sold My Soul For Mods Car: '05 CGM STi Fav Mod: Track Time Location: Bethesda, MD Posts: 6,762 IWSTI Addict since: Jun 2004 Trader Rating: (14)	Oh god another BOV debate. If you are going to get a new BOV (which is pointless anyways) get something that recirculates.

03-13-2006, 11:10 AM	#5
Darkiller Spec C Club Car: 2006 STI BLUE Fav Mod: Fp20g and protune Location: 1000 oaks, SoCA Posts: 1,504 IWSTI Addict since: Dec 2005 Trader Rating: (0)	When at idel if it has a leak then it will run lean .. But when it blows off it will run rich not lean .. Like when you shift it will run rich .. And if it is a good BOV it wont leak under idel

05-04-2006, 01:35 PM	#9
pt518sti S204 Racer Car: 2005 White/Gold STi Fav Mod: TD06-20G/Tein Flex coilovers Location: New York Posts: 2,888 IWSTI Addict since: May 2005 Trader Rating: (8)	It wont make you run lean... rich for a split second, maybe... but not lean. You also don't "need" to get BOV before you get protuned. It plays no role in the tuning process. Also, if you have any catalytic converters, kiss them goodbye if you're blowing off to the atmosphere

05-04-2006, 01:38 PM	#10
jays05 Spec C Club Car: Blue 05 STI Fav Mod: 4th gear wheelspin Location: Upstate NY Posts: 2,095 IWSTI Addict since: Nov 2004 Trader Rating: (0)	A leak will make you run rich, not lean.

05-04-2006, 05:26 PM	#12
SoaReS S204 Racer Car: 05\|WRB\|STi Fav Mod: Cobb Stage 2 Location: H-Town, NJ Posts: 3,797 IWSTI Addict since: Aug 2005 Trader Rating: (3)	Another, "which bov to get thread" Im not trying to be mean here, but do a search! You'll then realize that getting an aftermarket bov for the stock turbo/stock psi is just dumb, and in the end hurts the performance of our car. But if your dead set on getting a bov, do us all a favor and atleast get a 100% recirculating one, but thats not even necessary because in the first place all you have to do is keep your stock bpv. <---------------FTW!

05-04-2006, 06:58 PM	#13
Rootus S204 Racer Car: 2006 STI Fav Mod: Recaros Location: Mahan, OR Posts: 2,900 IWSTI Addict since: Sep 2005 Trader Rating: (1)	Do a search. And find that everyone will say "BOVs are bad." And that is about all you will find. Very little actual information on why. If you have a BOV that only vents between shifts, then you are not going to have any problems. Problems occur when you have a setup that vents at part throttle (if you want a shining example, disconnect the bypass hose on the stock bypass valve ). During the time the BOV is venting, you will run rich, because you are releasing metered air prior to combustion. If this is for short periods of time, such as between shifts, it will be a non-issue. If, however, your BOV vents during part throttle, you have two problems to deal with -- first, an extended interval of rich operation, which can do things like harm catalytic converters; and second, if the ECU is in closed loop it will erroneously try to correct the mixture by pulling fuel. Later on it may use this incorrect data and run lean. The short answer is the one everyone gives -- skip the BOV. However, if you want one, get it, and figure out how to keep it from venting except between shifts. How to accomplish that is a whole different discussion. Dave

05-04-2006, 06:59 PM	#14
SoaReS S204 Racer Car: 05\|WRB\|STi Fav Mod: Cobb Stage 2 Location: H-Town, NJ Posts: 3,797 IWSTI Addict since: Aug 2005 Trader Rating: (3)	Where's klaymon when we need him for the ??