[RSVCHAD]

I think it's all relative. I don't consider $1,000 - $2,000 expensive for a turbo, when I look at the $1,000 - $1,500 everyone wants for a FMIC, which is a much less complex device.

[immature_sti]

trust me i am completely seeing the light on this one.

before i owned a STi, i had a VR-4 and the upgrades for that was like 5500 (divided by two) so i understand. i was just curious.

i love the deadbolts because its requires hardly any work on my part to install it, also deadbolts make me feel better as an owner, knowing that a good portion of STi owners are running them

now i was just wondering though cant your local muffler shop just make you a custom downpipe to fit the turbo of your choice.

[calisti]

It's all business. I've heard alot of the exhuast housings are contracted out in Mexico. We're just paying for the profit margin and middle man.

[vivi]

Originally Posted by silver arrow

I was getting annoyed with the "Mistu are crap" responses. I love cars and their are many fun car to be had a every price range. Even the riced out Honda's running around. At least they are doing something they enjoy. It was starting to sound like Nabisco in here.

i am sorry if i offended you but i was just quoting about the price of a brand new car. i have had a bad experence with a mitsu and its because of that i am in a STi but if love them cool man whatever i just cant deal with there stupid dealers or cars that eat trans.


but the price of the turbo could be cheaper its just market hype i have a freind that can build a 20g for 800-900 dollors or something like a green for the same

[Nolimits]

Its also the price range of the car and the people who bought them.

People who bought a civic wanted something cheap and corresponding prices for it will be cheap as well. Lets take a cat-back exhaust for comparison. It could be made with the same length of pipe and the same muffler but for the civic itll be $200, for an SRT-4 itll be $300 and for an STi itll be $400. Just because people spent 12k for the civic, 22k for the SRT, and 32k for the STi. Manufacturers think that since people spent more money for the car, they have a higher price range the owner should be classified in. Corvette owners spent 50k on their car and they get charged exuberant prices for their exhausts. Those arent made with any different materials, same metal, but the owner is in the upper level price bracket.

[silver arrow]

Originally Posted by vivi

i am sorry if i offended you but i was just quoting about the price of a brand new car. i have had a bad experence with a mitsu and its because of that i am in a STi but if love them cool man whatever i just cant deal with there stupid dealers or cars that eat trans.


but the price of the turbo could be cheaper its just market hype i have a freind that can build a 20g for 800-900 dollors or something like a green for the same

No offense taken. If you look at quality and reliability Mitsu is probably about the same as Audi or VW. No one calls an RS4 a POS. I having owned 7 vw/audi's know that for the most part you are buying a high maint. car with questionable reliability, but that doesn't make it crap. I'd love an RS4 or RS6. Truth be told BMW and Mercedes aren't much better in the reliability department either. Now lets all have a big group hug.

[ValvetrainEngineer]

Originally Posted by calisti

It's all business. I've heard alot of the exhuast housings are contracted out in Mexico. We're just paying for the profit margin and middle man.

Absolutely. As a rule of thumb, manufacturing cost is 1/4 of the retail price.

[Z1 Performance]

it's a lot more involved that that though - ever try getting an exhaust housing from IHI? It ain't easy - they don't like to supply them, and their prices are insane. Mitsubishi on the other hand? No problem - their housings are used across the board in every one of their turbo applications, from Evo's to trucks

[2fas4u]

Plus when you compare it to the stock turbo price, the aftermarket is not too much higher.....

[STiDarkness]

Originally Posted by Z1 Performance

it's a lot more involved that that though - ever try getting an exhaust housing from IHI? It ain't easy - they don't like to supply them, and their prices are insane.

MJMturbos has 200 P20 housings they are not going to use, $260 a piece. They charge to make money for turbos. Do what I did. Get the basic perrin rotated kit for $665 and you can use any turbo you want with a T3 flange! Or the Whole kit with GT30R is around $2600!