gt35r vs fp red - Page 2

GetterDragun · 11-11-2005, 08:57 AM

From what I've read, though the GT35R makes more power, it is also difficult to keep the boost up between shifts, that is why it seems the FP Reds perform better at the track without the need for Nitrous to keep the turbo spooled.

**Gruppe-S** · 11-11-2005, 03:10 PM

The GT35R is definitely a 10 second turbo for the STI. The response is actually better than the red due to the ball bearing design. A lot of the poor response between shifts that we are seeing is actually due to either a mismatch of components (turbo kit & head work) and/or a bit of improper tuning. Translated it often means that the turbo is sometimes larger than optimal for the car.

Cheers,

Gary
Gruppe-S

rob142sti · 11-11-2005, 03:24 PM

the red is 10s capable as well tho isnt it

***Neanderthal Racing*** · 11-11-2005, 03:27 PM

i'm not sure 500+ whp is going to do 10's.

rob142sti · 11-11-2005, 03:37 PM

you dont think if the red was pushed to its limits that it would be able to break into the tens?? im talking about a built block and all supporting hardware?? all the reds done around are done on stock or close to stock block.. pdx got 5xx hp on the thiers with pistons at a low psi.. im wondering what kind of numbers the red would produce with more boost then what it has been tested at.. then again the gt35r would be better with the same mods.. but still for the price---

mllrsti · 11-11-2005, 03:48 PM

You still can't complain about the red.......look at its powerband, all the usable power!!!!!!!!! I know the GT35R is an amazing turbo.....look at the results. I am still amazed with my RED, and wouldn't go with a different setup. It all comes down to what kind of car you want. I don't drag race, so the red is the perfect street turbo.

rob142sti · 11-11-2005, 04:00 PM

i read of someone pushing the red to an 11.2 on nasioc with the stock block.. i really do believe 10's are capable

mllrsti · 11-11-2005, 04:02 PM

Could be a possibility......I am sure we will find out if someone does it!

***Neanderthal Racing*** · 11-11-2005, 04:03 PM

i'd rather be wrong, btw. it's a great turbo.

ryanpietro · 11-11-2005, 05:22 PM

a red doing 11.2 is amazing i think i want the big hit of the 35r tho.

UA_STI · 11-11-2005, 05:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ryanpietro

a red doing 11.2 is amazing i think i want the big hit of the 35r tho.

Kind of sounds like you have your mind made up already.

rob142sti · 11-11-2005, 05:52 PM

so where are we finding the 35r for a good price??

**Gruppe-S** · 11-11-2005, 05:56 PM

On our dyno 500whp will run 10's... Easily

I can't speak for other dynos as dyno number are all relative, I can say I have not seen many 500+whp cars being able to backup their dyno numbers with timeslips. As for running 10's with an FP Red, I think it will be exceptionally difficult given the stock chassis.

For the GT35R because of the size of this turbo, it is virtually impossible to mount it in the stock location, so you'll have to look for one of the rotated kits. Also if you're shooting for 10's, make sure you're getting at least a 44mm wastegate.

Cheers,

Gary
Gruppe-S

ryanpietro · 11-11-2005, 07:01 PM

look in our classified section. syoung has an awsome kit for super cheap.

11-11-2005, 08:57 AM	#16
GetterDragun Professional STI Driver Posts: 418 IWSTI Addict since: Mar 2004 Trader Rating: (0)	From what I've read, though the GT35R makes more power, it is also difficult to keep the boost up between shifts, that is why it seems the FP Reds perform better at the track without the need for Nitrous to keep the turbo spooled. This ad is not endorsed by this member. Please register or login to hide this ad.

11-11-2005, 07:01 PM	#29
ryanpietro Am I misbehaving? Please tell a moderator by clicking on the "report this post" button if I am. Thanks! Car: 05 blu on silver Fav Mod: Coming Soon Location: so cal Posts: 224 IWSTI Addict since: Jul 2005 Trader Rating: (0)	look in our classified section. syoung has an awsome kit for super cheap. This ad is not endorsed by this member. Please register or login to hide this ad.

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11-11-2005, 03:10 PM	#17
Gruppe-S Authorized Vendor Car: 01 Subaru WRX STi Spec C Fav Mod: Coming Soon Posts: 4,152 IWSTI Addict since: Aug 2005 Trader Rating: (14)	The GT35R is definitely a 10 second turbo for the STI. The response is actually better than the red due to the ball bearing design. A lot of the poor response between shifts that we are seeing is actually due to either a mismatch of components (turbo kit & head work) and/or a bit of improper tuning. Translated it often means that the turbo is sometimes larger than optimal for the car. Cheers, Gary Gruppe-S

11-11-2005, 03:24 PM	#18
rob142sti Professional STI Driver Posts: 415 IWSTI Addict since: Mar 2005 Trader Rating: (1)	the red is 10s capable as well tho isnt it

11-11-2005, 03:27 PM	#19
*Neanderthal Racing* GT R US Car: CUTN EDG project Fav Mod: $20. mudflaps from auto zone Location: my cave Posts: 5,967 IWSTI Addict since: Dec 2003 Trader Rating: (1)	i'm not sure 500+ whp is going to do 10's.

11-11-2005, 03:37 PM	#20
rob142sti Professional STI Driver Posts: 415 IWSTI Addict since: Mar 2005 Trader Rating: (1)	you dont think if the red was pushed to its limits that it would be able to break into the tens?? im talking about a built block and all supporting hardware?? all the reds done around are done on stock or close to stock block.. pdx got 5xx hp on the thiers with pistons at a low psi.. im wondering what kind of numbers the red would produce with more boost then what it has been tested at.. then again the gt35r would be better with the same mods.. but still for the price---

11-11-2005, 03:48 PM	#21
mllrsti Professional STI Racer Posts: 719 IWSTI Addict since: Dec 2004 Trader Rating: (0)	You still can't complain about the red.......look at its powerband, all the usable power!!!!!!!!! I know the GT35R is an amazing turbo.....look at the results. I am still amazed with my RED, and wouldn't go with a different setup. It all comes down to what kind of car you want. I don't drag race, so the red is the perfect street turbo.

11-11-2005, 04:00 PM	#22
rob142sti Professional STI Driver Posts: 415 IWSTI Addict since: Mar 2005 Trader Rating: (1)	i read of someone pushing the red to an 11.2 on nasioc with the stock block.. i really do believe 10's are capable

11-11-2005, 04:02 PM	#23
mllrsti Professional STI Racer Posts: 719 IWSTI Addict since: Dec 2004 Trader Rating: (0)	Could be a possibility......I am sure we will find out if someone does it!

11-11-2005, 04:03 PM	#24
*Neanderthal Racing* GT R US Car: CUTN EDG project Fav Mod: $20. mudflaps from auto zone Location: my cave Posts: 5,967 IWSTI Addict since: Dec 2003 Trader Rating: (1)	i'd rather be wrong, btw. it's a great turbo.

11-11-2005, 05:22 PM	#25
ryanpietro Am I misbehaving? Please tell a moderator by clicking on the "report this post" button if I am. Thanks! Car: 05 blu on silver Fav Mod: Coming Soon Location: so cal Posts: 224 IWSTI Addict since: Jul 2005 Trader Rating: (0)	a red doing 11.2 is amazing i think i want the big hit of the 35r tho.

11-11-2005, 05:52 PM	#27
rob142sti Professional STI Driver Posts: 415 IWSTI Addict since: Mar 2005 Trader Rating: (1)	so where are we finding the 35r for a good price??

11-11-2005, 05:56 PM	#28
Gruppe-S Authorized Vendor Car: 01 Subaru WRX STi Spec C Fav Mod: Coming Soon Posts: 4,152 IWSTI Addict since: Aug 2005 Trader Rating: (14)	On our dyno 500whp will run 10's... Easily I can't speak for other dynos as dyno number are all relative, I can say I have not seen many 500+whp cars being able to backup their dyno numbers with timeslips. As for running 10's with an FP Red, I think it will be exceptionally difficult given the stock chassis. For the GT35R because of the size of this turbo, it is virtually impossible to mount it in the stock location, so you'll have to look for one of the rotated kits. Also if you're shooting for 10's, make sure you're getting at least a 44mm wastegate. Cheers, Gary Gruppe-S