[berdugo]

Originally Posted by n2oiroc

as far as i understand it, there are 2 timing maps that need to be turned off or else you will potentially blow it up. something triggers them to add timing randomly and nobody knows what the trigger is as far as i know. a lot of 07 guys have been burned hard with this.

What tuning method did you use? AP with protune?
I'll use EcuTek. What octane were you using when it blew up? Do we need to put torco on it all the time to avoid blowing up? I hope mine won't blow up

[n2oiroc]

Originally Posted by berdugo

What tuning method did you use? AP with protune?
I'll use EcuTek. What octane were you using when it blew up? Do we need to put torco on it all the time to avoid blowing up? I hope mine won't blow up

it was detonation that killed it. never heard it never had any clue until i saw oil coming out of the exhaust during full throttle upshifts. i ran a lot of torco and a bit of pump gas. i dont know what map it happened on. it was tuned with an ap but the problem lies within the stock ecu. as long as the 2 extra d/a maps are turned off there is nothing to worry about.

[berdugo]

Originally Posted by n2oiroc

it was detonation that killed it. never heard it never had any clue until i saw oil coming out of the exhaust during full throttle upshifts. i ran a lot of torco and a bit of pump gas. i dont know what map it happened on. it was tuned with an ap but the problem lies within the stock ecu. as long as the 2 extra d/a maps are turned off there is nothing to worry about.

Thanks, btw what is the 2 extra d/a maps?

[n2oiroc]

Originally Posted by berdugo

Thanks, btw what is the 2 extra d/a maps?

first post explains it pretty good.

cracked piston, not even 11k on 07 sti - Page 5 - Factory 2.5L Turbo Powertrain - NASIOC

[berdugo]

Thanks for the info man. that's kinda scary

[Boxer]

Originally Posted by ValvetrainEngineer

Please correct me if I'm not understanding this correctly...but that wire mesh filter is supposed to catch something that the finer paper oil filter couldn't?

It's suppose to act as a safety net should something get pass the oil filter. Obviously, since the '05+ don't have them, it's engineering overkill. If you are using the stock airbox/airfilter and changing your oil at the recommended interval, I wouldn't worry about it.

[Justin B]

Originally Posted by IlliniSTi

So how do you know if an 05 has it or not? Besides the obvious of taking it apart and checking for it?

EDIT: If the End of your VIN is greater than 5*502352 you're OK

Found it here:
Page 1 of TSB
http://www.scoobymods.com/forums/att...2&d=1131460148
Page 2 of TSB
http://www.scoobymods.com/forums/att...3&d=1131460154
Out of this thread at scoobymods:
TSB 02-97-05 Rough idle on 04 Turbo motors (2.5L) - ScoobyMods

I want to point out that the VIN thing is incorrect. I have a 2005 and had to replace my oil feed line because it cracked in the same place as Ultimate Lurkers. I checked my VIN and according to the TSB and mine should NOT have had a filter in place. Sure enough when I replace the line and check the bolt it is in there. My suggestion for everyone with a 2005 is to check it regardless, it really is easy to take out.

[snorky]

Originally Posted by ValvetrainEngineer

Please correct me if I'm not understanding this correctly...but that wire mesh filter is supposed to catch something that the finer paper oil filter couldn't?

iirc subaru oil filters use wire mesh in them instead of paper. But obviously, not everyone uses them.

My understanding is that the banjo bolt filter is there to keep large particles that may accumulate and dislodge in the system out of the tiny oil journal in the turbo.

Originally Posted by Boxer

It's suppose to act as a safety net should something get pass the oil filter. Obviously, since the '05+ don't have them, it's engineering overkill. If you are using the stock airbox/airfilter and changing your oil at the recommended interval, I wouldn't worry about it.

Originally Posted by Justin B

I want to point out that the VIN thing is incorrect. I have a 2005 and had to replace my oil feed line because it cracked in the same place as Ultimate Lurkers. I checked my VIN and according to the TSB and mine should NOT have had a filter in place. Sure enough when I replace the line and check the bolt it is in there. My suggestion for everyone with a 2005 is to check it regardless, it really is easy to take out.

****All turbocharged subarus have the turbo banjo bolt filter regardless of year. Only the AVCS filter was removed for '05+ mentioned in the TSB.***

i don't know how else to convey this.

[WolfPlayer]

Originally Posted by snorky

iirc subaru oil filters use wire mesh in them instead of paper.

Not true.





The rest of the pics are here ...
www.bescaredracing.com - /sti/oil/filters/oem/

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[n2oiroc]

Originally Posted by snorky

****All turbocharged subarus have the turbo banjo bolt filter regardless of year. Only the AVCS filter was removed for '05+ mentioned in the TSB.***

i don't know how else to convey this.

you need to double check your info. as stated before my 07 did not come with a turbo banjo bolt filter.