[Brettnrs423]

Thanks Robert. It would only be a temporary thing and I would probably tune it with a utec, perrin injectors and rails, and a walbro pump eventually. I didn't mean "could I extract more power with stock fuel and tuning," I just meant would it be ok in the mean time untill I get all the supporting mods. Plus, no boost creep with a tbe. Thanks again for your help.

[staticx313]

Not a problem man. I just dont want anyone damaging their cars using my products . Im sure if you ran SUPER Low boost and took it easy, you'd be ok, just be careful please. As you will have no boost creep as it will have a new wastegate design... so no worries there . Thanks again. I hope to have my VF34 sold monday so I can purchase another vf39 and get this rolling!!!! Sorry this is going to be a kinda long process depending on how fast my guy can get these done. I will keep everyone in the loop though!

Robert~

[staticx313]

More info is being leaked to me Stage 1 wheels will be PE1820 wheels (BIG) and Stage 2 wheels EVEN BIGGER. I cant wait to get this rolling!!! Ordering utec tomorrow!!!! I traded my VF34 for a VF39 and some cash, so this should be happening very soon.

Robert~

[staticx313]

Although trying not to get tooo excited, NOT, I was also informed that the Stage 1 would do about ~320whp-360whp (with the supporting mods of course), and stage 2.... beyonnnnddddd. I should be emailing some updates to people soon... if you still want on my mailing list about this... email me: staticx313@netzero.com!! Thanks!

Robert~

[RabidSTi]

What are all the supporting mods?

Fuel rails?
Injectors?
Fuel pump?
short ram or cold air Intake?
Turbo back, engine management, what else?

I gotta start bugeting and acquiring. It would be good to know what I should get.

[staticx313]

whoa, shouldnt be as serious as new fuel rails and what not. But I'd say at LEAST EM and a TBE. Mainly what this will do... is that instead of maxxing out at like 310whp, you'll max out at 360whp, and even higher for the stage 2. See ... the problem is... you'd always gain a lot of torque with mods and no hp, because of the fact that the turbo maxes out very easily. This will allow you to get more out of each mod as it is more capable of higher hp ratings. All while keeping the VF39 housing.

Now for the Stage two, if this is as powerful as they say, will require injectors, EM, etc... I dont think you ever "require" a tbe or intake... but im sure it'd help.

I sent my Payment info to Dan @ Godspeed for a UTEC, so it should be here late this week or next week. I should have my turbo going out to deadbolt this friday as well.

When I receive the UTEC I will be doing testing and logging and what not on the road. I will also run to Gwinett Subaru of Atlanta (i believe is the one with the in house dyno). That way I can get graphs and measure whp/wtq.

Also, dont forget... Dan @ Godspeed did EVERY BOLT ON (FMIC, Intake, TBE, Header/Uppipe, ETC) I believe and was able to use the stock injectors (correct me if im wrong dan). Although they were being taxed pretty bad, but Im sure you will be fine if you use this turbo + tbe or something of that nature.

My personal goal is to do 350whp on the stage 1 or stage 2 VF39, depending... for others, im trying to get in and compete with the 20G and FP Greens. So we'll see what happens. For now Im 100% stock, except for a CAI, Catch Can, and Inlet hose... so I will probably just bolt the turbo onto that to see the gains. Then maybe with TBE or something, im not sure. I just dont have the money to drop a lot of money into this turbo and then drop another $800 into a TBE. After just spending $107X or whatever for a UTEC plus Switch. So we'll see ... feel free to donate to my project if you feel the urge too lol jk

Robert~

[drdome99]

Ok so I am confused a bit... so when we buy this from you we will be buying a used turbo that has been modified? And where are you buying the originals from?

[staticx313]

I am buying the turbos from people online as a "core" value. They will be fully inspected and rebuilt if necessary. Most turbos I have found are under 5000 miles and since its a ball bearing Im sure there is nothing to worry about. You are replacing the wheels and what not and therefore.. all that is old is the housing, if that matters. I am buying a few used VF39s at first to get this rolling, but then hope to do some core charge stuff on the next set that come in.

Anotherwords... I have a couple Stage X VF39s laying around. If you buy a kit for $999.99, then you pay that full amount. Apon receiving your turbo and it checks out ok, you will get whatever the refund I think up is. So in reality this turbo will probably only cost you around $600 or so. For 400hp+.

Also this is going on my car as well... I will make sure the turbos are in MINT condition and fully rebalanced and basically new. Im paying a lot of cash for these things to be perfect, so dont worry about them being used.

Robert~

PS - Dont forget we do not require turbo timers as we have the oil\water convection cooling setup. So you dont have to worry about any turbos coming in with burnt bearings and what not like you would on most standard turbos. Again every turbo is tested for maximum reliability.

[jph]

if i eventually decide to upgrade the turbo, i think that i want something that will have instant power, in any gear, at any rpm.

i'm thinking about possibly upgrading the stocker with a twinscroll turbo.
but i have no idea which one. i don't want to reach for crazy high horsepower, but something that boosts better and quicker than stock

i couldn't find much info on it, apart from a pretty good report on NASIOC regarding the vf37. which seemed to have the desired results.

any other reports ouththere regarding twinscroll STIs ?


Jurgen.

[staticx313]

Get ready for some major money... I believe a VF37 twin scroll was going to be $1700-2000 for me... and not really a lot of gains on that. Then you'd have to purcahse another larger turbo or go with the GPMOTO kit (GT32) which is expensive... or looks expensive anyways. The headers are twin scroll headers which are VERY complext to design/make... along with the uppipe. So they will be very expensive. (Look up evo headers... $1000 for about 4" of tubing per cylinder. Good luck though, although Mauro seems to be missing the boxer rumble lol.

Robert~

[Brettnrs423]

Originally Posted by staticx313

Now for the Stage two, if this is as powerful as they say, will require injectors, EM, etc
Robert~

Robert, when you say this I assume that you mean in order to break the 360 whp mark that you will need all those supporting mods. Will it be ok to run the stage 2 turbo with the stock fuel system and say a UTEC and then upgrade everything else later? Im assuming that if you just keep the boost down as you said before, that this should be ok.

[staticx313]

Im sure theres a way to keep the boost down enough, but you will be flowing a LOT of air. If you want to try it, thats fine, but dont expect to even be able to run stock boost on the stage 2 turbo without even having injector shortage (imo). If its a 360whp + capable turbo, thats a LOT of air. Although Im sure it might be doable... thats kinda why im waiting til I get some dynos done to start sending newsletters and stuff to people.

Robert~

ps - this also depends a LOT on your mods... if you have JUST a utec and that turbo.. im sure you're fine, but start opening up intake, downpipe, etc... and you'll be flowing a LOT.

[jph]

Originally Posted by staticx313

Get ready for some major money... I believe a VF37 twin scroll was going to be $1700-2000 for me... and not really a lot of gains on that. Then you'd have to purcahse another larger turbo or go with the GPMOTO kit (GT32) which is expensive... or looks expensive anyways. The headers are twin scroll headers which are VERY complext to design/make... along with the uppipe. So they will be very expensive. (Look up evo headers... $1000 for about 4" of tubing per cylinder. Good luck though, although Mauro seems to be missing the boxer rumble lol.

Robert~

i'm aware of the pricetag, and the need to replace headers/up pipe and possibly even downpipe. and the boxer rumble

but i just couldn't justify to upgrade the turbo, and increase lag. that's basically why i was thinking twinscroll.

what i'd really like to see is different dyno plots comparing all the possible turbo upgrades to stock the vf34 seems to perform better overall. but the gains are not really *that* big. like i said, i'm not going to shoot for 400 awhp. but still something better than a vf34.

i'll keep an eye on this thread, and see how your turbo project goes. it might just end up to be what i want

i'm also trying to find as much info as i can on upgraded TMICs. (i really don't want to go front mount)

ohwell.. soo many options


Jurgen.

[staticx313]

Originally Posted by jph

i'm aware of the pricetag, and the need to replace headers/up pipe and possibly even downpipe. and the boxer rumble

but i just couldn't justify to upgrade the turbo, and increase lag. that's basically why i was thinking twinscroll.

what i'd really like to see is different dyno plots comparing all the possible turbo upgrades to stock the vf34 seems to perform better overall. but the gains are not really *that* big. like i said, i'm not going to shoot for 400 awhp. but still something better than a vf34.

i'll keep an eye on this thread, and see how your turbo project goes. it might just end up to be what i want

i'm also trying to find as much info as i can on upgraded TMICs. (i really don't want to go front mount)

ohwell.. soo many options


Jurgen.

dont forget... you're replacing with STOCK parts... not high performance twin scroll headers/uppipe. So you wont be gaining horsepower from them. Also. just so you know... i believe perrin dynoed 29psi on the FP Green and got ~14-15 psi under 3000 rpms and full 29psi by 3XXX rpms... so there really isnt a lot of lag to worry about! Im hoping though to keep the lag to that of stock with using the same housing and what not, but we'll see. Obviously by increasing the wheel there is going ot be a little bit more, but not much. Good luck though however you decide!

Robert~