[IGoFast1589]

I'm going to be sure to keep my eye on this thread! Thanks for all your help!

[ItalianStallion]

Originally Posted by RiftsWRX

.................string of failures on '07 STI's............. see if we can stop what's going on with the '07's.

string of failures on 'o7 STI's ?
what IS going on with the o7's ?

Mine is fine and a handful of friends on the forum that have o7's are doing just fine too.
If you are contacting Cobb it is most likely because you feel this pertains to all o7's running AP not just ones you have tuned.
Please provide more information to clarify because it seems like you are just spreading bad info about o7's without specific proof.

No disrespect to you or your tuning abilities but Cobb is a VERY professional company and i doubt they would release a product that would cause "failures" outside of the warning they have already issued using LC/FFS

[QuickSilverSTi]

Originally Posted by ItalianStallion

No disrespect to you or your tuning abilities but Cobb is a VERY professional company and i doubt they would release a product that would cause "failures" outside of the warning they have already issued using LC/FFS

Cobb has issued recalls before, just like any other company....sways, links, short-ram...dp...etc....it happens to the best company's.

[modaddict]

this is where the discussion really is. Page ~18 and on STI 07 down in compression - Page 18 - Factory 2.5L Turbo Powertrain - NASIOC

[boxtwo]

FWIW I have been talking with Cobb about one of the 07 issues with the bucking under light load. I sent a few datalogs and am waiting to hear back. I am in southern PA running Stage 1 AP with 93 octane.

[sti2relaxxin]

Well I talked to Hill today, and he is going to make me a map using the non-LC/FFS map as a base. He said it is not a huge deal to switch the map over, and may take a half hour or so. I am only doing this because of the 4th to 5th gear change issue I described earlier.
Hill has not seen any issues with the cars he has tuned with the LC/FFS map as a base. I don't know the lingo very well, but I am pretty sure he said he has only heard of issues with these maps when tuners improperly adjust the ignition timing (????) or something like that. Either way, if the 4th to 5th issue is fixed with the new map, then that map stays. Otherwise I am going to schedule an appointment at Agile to let them have a look. Every time I contact Agile/ Hill I feel like my money was well spent.

[flatthump]

Originally Posted by Kickstand

So whats the deal, what type of failures? I have Lc and FFS enabled on my protuned 07 and I haven't had any issues.

Originally Posted by ItalianStallion

string of failures on 'o7 STI's ?
what IS going on with the o7's ?

Mine is fine and a handful of friends on the forum that have o7's are doing just fine too.

Im not picking on you guys, but I hear this kind of stuff all the time on forums.

"I haven't had any issues"
"My car runs fine and haven't noticed anything"
Etc...

YOU DONT have to notice something is strange or wrong for their to be a major catastrophic failure in the works. I can't stress that enough.

Carry on.

[BBBsti LTD]

Any update Jorge????

[Dyno Flash]

I advise my customers not to use the LC and NLS function on stock motors.

It is a great feature and is entertaining but, for normal consumers who want to drive a car for many years it is not a function that makes a lot of sense. Keep in mind that COBB has a serious disclaimer regarding the use of LC and NLS maps on the page where you down load those maps.

Those who want to use it on occassion and with moderation should have no problem. However, those few customers who beat the heck out of their cars and who use this feature every where they go are going to wear out clucthes, shorten the life of the transmission and put undue stress on the pistons which are weak.

I have installed this on a lot of cars per customer request and no one has had a problem to date.

[gabedude]

The bucking under light load is due to the ETC mapping, it can be fixed.

There are a bunch of stock and tuned 07 STIs blowing motors. Some of it can be contributed to hard part failures. Some can be attributed to running out of fuel. Subaru changed many parts on the 07 STI. They did screw up a few things to say the least.

Gabe

[flor07sti]

i had some major turbo lag issues and some bucking. i brought it to the dealer they updated the ecu and now it is running okay. but sometimes feels sluggish. i wanna get a tune of somekind and i have my DP on the side, but im scared to even try anything. my car runs normal now but needs more power. choices,choices.

[Chris G]

Glad I caught this thread. I just bought my 07 and had planned on doing a few small mods - AP, Protune, TBE, etc.

Now... I'm a little hesistant.

[Draco-REX]

Originally Posted by Chris G

Glad I caught this thread. I just bought my 07 and had planned on doing a few small mods - AP, Protune, TBE, etc.

Now... I'm a little hesistant.

This is just about LC and FFS, this has nothing to do with going Stage 2 + protune without LC or FFS. There's no problem with going your route. Just do your research and you'll be fine.

[Chris G]

I'm known to research too much - but I guess that can't hurt

Looks like my mod path will remain the same. I'm still very interested in hear more about this issue though.

[Inn-Tune]

In case any of my customers were wondering, no you don't have to worry about this with my tunes. I recently got some current logs from 07's I tuned in the past to see if this was something my customers had to worry about. They're running just fine.

I tested Cobb FFS on one car at the customer's strong request and could see the potential for poor consistancy in the tune and eventual damage so that was the end of it.